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Re: hot trick I wouldn't mind to find under the christmas tr

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Interesting topic as I just picked up a Turbo Raider this week that I would like to restore. I'm with Mr. Ed and would like to see more info on this conversion.
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The weak point on the HT Raider design is probably the front piece that the top deck mounts to. I'm thinking it's a C or Z shaped bracket that's screwed onto the front kickup, and, given the alum HT used, it probably didn't hold up well to a crash, or hard landing. That bracket looks like it is also a mounting point for the front arms...so when it did bend that was :cry: for the front suspension.
The front part of the chassis that connects to the front piece was in the "C" shape and as I was tearing mine down both sides snapped right off as I took the screws out. :roll: Another thing that has me puzzled is every time I find a vintage Kyosho to restore, repair parts are hard to find. :cry:
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Had a hunch parts would show up on eBay soon after this thread was posted. The seller bummed Mr. Ed's ad pic from the first post so he must've read this thread. :roll:
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Crazy how that works...

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also a crazy price :shock:

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I was the lucky winner of these.... Only "everything else" to go! Lol
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Is the guy that made the Lohas stuff still in business? Maybe he can help you out for some missing parts.
Hot-Trick's designs were in one way very smart: they stuck to basic manufacturing for small series. That makes them relatively easy to reproduce for a small toolshop.

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Very cool to see those parts. Now the only part I haven't seen from a Cali raider is the chassis.

I guess that now officially makes the Advance Super Sport the rarest hop-up part/kit since I haven't seen one of those yet. :)

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Ok here is the out of bag pics, I also scanned the paperwork for the scans archive
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Ya know...that lower kick-up looks an awful lot like the Hot Trick Ultima kick-up. Could you check if the holes line up with an Ultima bulkhead? Even has the holes for an extended wheelbase....though the Cali-Raider top deck doesn't have matching holes for a longer wheelbase.

I was a bit off on how I thought the front end would work. I guessed that the forward mounting holes of the front arms were actually part of the lower kick-up and the rear holes were part of the bulkhead.


EDIT: Never mind. Just compared the kick-up to an Ultima's and the Cali Raider is longer in the middle. :|

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Wow that does look like Ultima, didn't notice it at all. I'll measure it up and let you know
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Would've been nice if they shared the same kick-up since that bend that dips down over the edge of the chassis is the tough one to make. The bulkhead can be done with a plain old bending brake.

Could've sourced an Ultima kick-up from Lohas.

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Since they aren't using the raider bulkhead there would be no need to reuse the holes, so I'm sure they reused it. Makes perfect sense.
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One step closer :mrgreen:
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all those efforts just for my x-mass present?

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:lol:

Agreed, it´s pretty sweet
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