Welshy40 wrote:Lazer by far a better car, mind ypu my buddy Rama aka Alcyon may say otherwise. You can still buy chassis and all varients including my design the tub. Also all towers, steering plates, L braces all from fibrelyte and belts are being made again and sold on ebay, so not too hard to race it. Im still racing mine and can beat the new cars easily and have proved this numerous times but did create a cf rear gearbox so i could tension the belts to handle a 4.5 brushless. It wheelies sometimes and is so much fun to drive unlike the new cars sold now.
Well sir you are clearly the champion of lazers ang rightfully so, i'm very happy to hear that the tubchassies i aviable again
I am a sucker for hop-ups and especially carbon stuff we raced in Norway last summer and the lazers were whispering silent and suspensionwise it was the smoothest. It made quite an impression. A perfect combination would be a swb Lazer ha ha a swb mid is purely a nostalgic pick and lazers for the win i guess. Thank you all for great advice
Lol welshy40..i wouldnt say the lazer isnt great..but in my opinion the biggest advantage handling wise the lazer has over the mid is suspension. You place the better suspension in the mid you also get the handling.
they just have different ways of transmiting power.
modifying too much of either cars can get very expensive.i would suggest the ultra necesary parts only.
For me that would be the vts system ..and the right springs ..tyres and caster blocks and ball diffs if on low traction surfaces.. the 120gbp tub chassis should only be on the total fanatic's list
alcyon wrote:Lol welshy40..i wouldnt say the lazer isnt great..but in my opinion the biggest advantage handling wise the lazer has over the mid is suspension. You place the better suspension in the mid you also get the handling.
they just have different ways of transmiting power.
modifying too much of either cars can get very expensive.i would suggest the ultra necesary parts only.
For me that would be the vts system ..and the right springs ..tyres and caster blocks and ball diffs if on low traction surfaces.. the 120gbp tub chassis should only be on the total fanatic's list
Yes the suspension is impressive on lazer, i have bought a zx-rr and i am hoping to post my progress with tranforming it into a mean machine in this thread. I have not given up on the mids though, you simply can not have to much kyosho
Thanks for the nice words Twister, really made my day. Looking forward to seeing it.
Ok I am a lazer fanatic through and through and do admit Alcyons mid with those mods is as good as mine, no harm in having both. Also Alcyon makes some really good option parts for both cars including the layshaft which ive helped design with him and tested. Vts is the only way forwards) with both cars
120 gbp for the tub is cheap when you consider its hand made unlike the pre programmed flat parts which are cut by machine. Still am happy that we have finally got the layshaft sorted.
Designer of the Lazer ZX / ZXR Tub Chassis (now available again from Fibre-Lyte)
Welshy40 wrote:Thanks for the nice words Twister, really made my day. Looking forward to seeing it.
Ok I am a lazer fanatic through and through and do admit Alcyons mid with those mods is as good as mine, no harm in having both. Also Alcyon makes some really good option parts for both cars including the layshaft which ive helped design with him and tested. Vts is the only way forwards) with both cars
120 gbp for the tub is cheap when you consider its hand made unlike the pre programmed flat parts which are cut by machine. Still am happy that we have finally got the layshaft sorted.
I will get my lazer sorted in a few months. I am having durabilty issues with the front suspension blocks..i have solced the problems with the rears. Also i have to get proper springs for the lazer . I find that durango stock bb springs are perfectly suited but i only have one set. I will get a set copied and my zx should be ready to rumble again.
I would like some advice comcerning suspensionarm strenght. While cornering with the car on a tight track and racing and rubbi'n is tolling on these vintage vehicles. How do you prepare your lazer for tough racing?I have heard of som weak spots in/on the front bulkhead. Solution? Dont hit stuff off course but i have an habit of doing just that
Front gearbox is weak so for strenght use an shocktower that are connected on top
La-30 the inner pinn holders front and back are also a weak spot so getting the
FF ( front front ) in alu ( expensive) or in carbon ( cheap ) i have the carbon version
Works great cant take the hole credit for it since whelsy made the drawing for me Thanks James
You really don't have to worry about the suspension arms. I broke one, but only after trying very hard on an indoor carpet track. I made a front front hinge pin brace from aluminium with very simple tools, ie a handheld drill and a file. Careful measuring is the most difficult part about it.
Twister wrote:I would like some advice comcerning suspensionarm strenght. While cornering with the car on a tight track and racing and rubbi'n is tolling on these vintage vehicles. How do you prepare your lazer for tough racing?I have heard of som weak spots in/on the front bulkhead. Solution? Dont hit stuff off course but i have an habit of doing just that
I use a semi circular front tower under the ZX section on fibrelyte but redesigned it and made the bottom pillar thicker and also made it 4mm thick and has resolved it from breaking. Ive also got alloy pivot blocks and have put a soft thin shock seal between the pivot block and wishbone to stop slop, washers will also work.
Also dont use the carbon fibre wishbones, standard are kevlar reinforced and unlike the brittle carbon fibre version is hard to break.
Pm me if you want help and advice as well as Iso.
Designer of the Lazer ZX / ZXR Tub Chassis (now available again from Fibre-Lyte)
That they are, simple and can change the rear belt on a standard car in five minutes flat. Its a great car and fun to drive, not boring like the current 4wd cars.
Designer of the Lazer ZX / ZXR Tub Chassis (now available again from Fibre-Lyte)
Any thought about the Optima rerelease with latest hop ups such as clutch, gunmetal gear set for powerful brushless and lipo, ball diff with belt and few others, and up against other successful belt drive from the company?
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I never owned any optima in the past or its derivatives. This is because I loved my tamiya /op up boomerang back in the time. I have bought the Kypsho Rocky for fun back in th mid 87 and drov n it for short period of time.
Trinity Yokomo wheels with Schumacher tires
Carbon shocks towers, hingepin mounts, camber link mount and transmission brace.
Lazer suspension.
Steering is shaved T2 Fasttrax ballraced bellcranks with ZX ballraced link.
AE 1. gen. slipper modified to...
Ok - so i'm not particularly familiar with the Kyosho range of cars - but I always admired the 4wd off road buggies - and really hankered after an Optima Mid during my early days of racing.... the end of line Optima Mid Custom Special (in my eyes)...
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Hey Dan,
No problem, glad I was of some help. You're right in thinking that there's not a lot of interchangeable parts between the two. I don't have both bodies nor do I have my LWB Mid with my in Cologne so I can't answer your question about the...
I've found this forum whilst looking for parts to complete my mid. I'll be building this to hopefully race in the vintage class. It's already spent far too long sitting idle. This was partially stripped down to be cleaned and built back up....
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Its a wasp slipper on the ZXRR with tub chassis. You asked me on oople so sorry for the delayed reply.
After a long time I finally got enough bits together to build a shelf queen Turbo Optima Mid to accompany my Optima Mid, here are some pics.
I also have (all boxart paint):
Ultima
Triumph
Turbo Optima
Lazer ZX
Lazer ZX-R
Cheers,
Dan :D
and a...
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I like it !!! looking forward to many pictures............The table is high class for RC build........can i hear anybody in the background scream............. :lol:
I am an RC10 guy, but always liked the Ultima and Optima series that Kyosho produced. I don't know much about them though. I always wanted a 4wd buggy since the later 80s, but never did end up with one.
Lately, I have been contemplating weather or...
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Turbo Optima Mid: Optima Mid with full options (stabilizers, ball bearings, 2mm duralumin bronze anodised flatpan chassis, ESC ready)