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Re: Discussion about possible aluminum transmission and part

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klavy69 wrote:
aoH wrote:are these still aval?
Yes they are. At this point it looks like you have to have b/s/t access to get them. That is where 300D50 has his link to these. You can pry pm him to see if he wants to let one go outside of the b/s/t area.
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ahh, that explains that.

thanks!

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As of now, they are on intergalactic back-order...
The machine I've been using got put into service for a different production run, so I have to wait it out.

I'm sitting on too much stock and tooling to up and leave, but there may be a significant delay before they are back on the market.

Seems like it's always two forward, one back for me.
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Re: Discussion about possible aluminum transmission and part

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Walt, glad to hear from you. Sorry to hear about you having the same kinda luck I have :wink: . Right now I'm in the 2 steps back phase myself. Keep us posted when you get back up and going.
I think I have enuf to get a white one now :mrgreen:
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klavy69 wrote:Right now I'm in the 2 steps back phase myself.
Yeah?? Well I blame both of you for getting Paula Abdul stuck in my head... :evil:

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well if thats all thats stuck in your head then I guess it ain't all that bad :mrgreen:
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"love in an elevator" and the movie "cool world" are stuck in my head after seeing that sig.
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Mate a case that is direct bolt up fit with RC10 stealth cars but using the internals from the B4,T4 FT would be sweet as mate i would grab at least 2

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bully wrote:Mate a case that is direct bolt up fit with RC10 stealth cars but using the internals from the B4,T4 FT would be sweet as mate i would grab at least 2

It does seem like a great idea at first. I was hoping for the same.

There is a catch with doing this.

The late model diff gears have a larger diameter. This means that the vertical centerline of the outdrive will be significantly higher/further away from the top surface of the chassis.

That means that the stock/OEM length dogbones will be too short. Either the upper swingarm mount will have to be raised significantly or custom length dogbones will have to be made.

With this issue, it is clear why AE now has the bottom of the trans case pierced through the chassis. Doing so helps keep the driveline lower in the chassis & therefore gives better dogbone angles.

I am currently planning on going through the bottom of the chassis, with a late model transmission, on my next build.
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Re: Discussion about possible aluminum transmission and part

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Thought the extra length in the bones would be minimal and you would be able to get around that buy playing with the wheel axle spacers.

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When you're back in production, I'd be interested in a 6 gear just for gits and shiggles.

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Re: Discussion about possible aluminum transmission and part

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bully wrote:Thought the extra length in the bones would be minimal and you would be able to get around that buy playing with the wheel axle spacers.

possibly, but I don't think so. I want as much suspension travel & droop on my buggy as I can get.

If the rear suspension is set up very flat, so the dogbones are almost always in plane with the outdrives, then, yeah.

I had to shim my rear suspension blocks when mixing parts from a 10T & 10. They both had the 2.25 stealth. 1/16" of shims made all the difference. The dogbones were jumping out otherwise.
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Re: Discussion about possible aluminum transmission and part

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Looks like we may have to get someone to mill down the B4 outdrives to suit the 2.25 diff gear and rings then seeing as the oe 2.25 ones are very hard to find now.

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if you didn't want to cut a hole in the chassis, you could make a plate under the trans and rear arm mounts to put them in the same plane and actually lower the CG a bit.

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bully wrote:Looks like we may have to get someone to mill down the B4 outdrives to suit the 2.25 diff gear and rings then seeing as the oe 2.25 ones are very hard to find now.
Y not make a trans case to house all the b4 internals in the stealth layout ?

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Re: Discussion about possible aluminum transmission and part

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lowrydesign wrote: Y not make a trans case to house all the b4 internals in the stealth layout ?
Jeep-Power wrote:
bully wrote:Mate a case that is direct bolt up fit with RC10 stealth cars but using the internals from the B4,T4 FT would be sweet as mate i would grab at least 2

It does seem like a great idea at first. I was hoping for the same.

There is a catch with doing this.

The late model diff gears have a larger diameter. This means that the vertical centerline of the outdrive will be significantly higher/further away from the top surface of the chassis.

That means that the stock/OEM length dogbones will be too short. Either the upper swingarm mount will have to be raised significantly or custom length dogbones will have to be made.

With this issue, it is clear why AE now has the bottom of the trans case pierced through the chassis. Doing so helps keep the driveline lower in the chassis & therefore gives better dogbone angles.

I am currently planning on going through the bottom of the chassis, with a late model transmission, on my next build.
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