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Re: shapeways durability?

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The race version is a heavier duty version of the part like you thought made for the racing part of the hobby. The standard parts would work great for the shelfers to be built. But any way you look at it...they are printed parts and not as sturdy as an injected mold formed part. From what I have read the durability kinda depends on how well you drive. If you are a so so driver like me you might break just as many other manufactured parts as shapeways parts. If you are a good driver and better then you should be good to go. If you like to bash or in race conditions can't stay off the tube, wall, or other cars these might not be what you want to build with 8)

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Thanks for the reply i will get the 3d printed race parts, like most drivers I'm probably in the middle(average) im lucky our track has soft piping and most people i will race againt in the vintage class love there buggys and dont take the racing serious so there isnt really much crashing in the class and running 17.5 the cars aren't to over powered its more off a show off your vintage class.

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meh... i hit a wall in my ultramolded 10t after swapping out the rpm 30 blocks for these 25 ones from shapeways.

not a spectacular hit... but it would have popped a ballend off on my normal setup.

i didnt know anything about water seal or whatever. but i did ream out the holes and tap the threads, and while doing so the material just felt like it was gonna break.
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DemZ wrote:Thanks for the reply i will get the 3d printed race parts, like most drivers I'm probably in the middle(average) im lucky our track has soft piping and most people i will race againt in the vintage class love there buggys and dont take the racing serious so there isnt really much crashing in the class and running 17.5 the cars aren't to over powered its more off a show off your vintage class.

Man, I wish their was a vintage class at SRS in Phoenix.

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badhoopty wrote:meh... i hit a wall in my ultramolded 10t after swapping out the rpm 30 blocks for these 25 ones from shapeways.

not a spectacular hit... but it would have popped a ballend off on my normal setup.

i didnt know anything about water seal or whatever. but i did ream out the holes and tap the threads, and while doing so the material just felt like it was gonna break.

I'm surprised to see 3D printed parts like this being used. I've been 3D printing things for a few years and would have to agree that I would expect it to break. Parts not under stress would be ok but I couldn't see these parts being 3D printed and holding up. At least not with the filament I use. Maybe some super strong stuff.

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The 3D printed parts people are using from Shapeways are not printed with an FDM printer using filament, they are printed on SLS machines in Nylon. Completely different material and printing process. In my experience, the Shapeways parts are fairly durable, but can never match the durability of molded nylon parts. 8)

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Right after I posted the HP article, this popped up in my email:

Shapeways receives the first
HP Multi Jet Fusion 3D Printer!


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Today we're super excited to announce a massive step in a partnership that will help revolutionize the way the world looks at product design and digital manufacturing. We have installed the new HP Multi Jet Fusion 3D printer at our factory in Eindhoven, the Netherlands.
In 2014 we announced a partnership with Hewlett Packard that enables Shapeways and HP to work together to take 3D printing to the next level. Today at RAPID, HP announced the first installation of their new HP Multi Jet Fusion 3D Printing System in our Eindhoven facility.

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Shapeways just announced they acquired the new HP Fusion printer, which is supposed to print 10x faster than current technologies. I believe it prints Nylon, so we'll see how these parts compare in terms of accuracy and strength to the Nylon SLS parts. Layers are still .004".

Edit: Oops, didn't notice the post above before I posted this :oops:

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Well that changes everything!

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I guess I won't have one of those in my garage any time soon :P

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mk-Zero wrote:I guess I won't have one of those in my garage any time soon :P
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Hewlett Packard is getting ready to release its first 3d printer and shapeways will be the first company to use it fro. What I read in an article. Sounds like it will be a game changer for durability.

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Here's a really good video explaining how HP's new printer works. I can't wait for shapeways to start letting us print with this. Initially they are working with black nylon.
The process is a lot like SLS, as far as using powdered material, but additionally uses a fusing agent and "detailing agents" to control the geometry, along with thermal curing, rather than just fusing selectively with a laser. Supposed to be 10x faster, and I believe it now that I know how it works.

I could also see how this process could get a lot closer to the strength of molded parts.

[youtube]VXntl3ff5tc[/youtube]

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