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Vintage Motors

esc's, charger's, batteries....

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Post by shodog » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:12 pm

FlyinGN wrote:wow. I love th eold checkpoints too. I still have my 12 turn plat checkpoint... its a rocket but have not ran it in years.. The brushes are those small types and are impossible to get..
I know I have a boat load of the springs but I can check for brushes also

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Post by Eau Rouge » Thu Aug 16, 2007 9:17 pm

You can still find suitable brushes for any Platinum motor at a slot-car hobby shop. It's a standard 36D size, which is kind of vintage now, but the brushes are identical.

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Post by FlyinGN » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:45 pm

ahhh thanks...

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Peak Performance Motors

Post by Toaster » Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:53 pm

Does anyone have more information out there concerning the old PP or Peak Performance motors? (especially the yellow can?)

I am looking at a lot right now for a Yokomo 05 motor but it comes with two yellow can PP motors that I know nothing about, was just curious about them.
I come for the RC10's but stay for the Yokomo's :P

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Re: Peak Performance Motors

Post by Eau Rouge » Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:34 am

Toaster wrote:Does anyone have more information out there concerning the old PP or Peak Performance motors? (especially the yellow can?)

I am looking at a lot right now for a Yokomo 05 motor but it comes with two yellow can PP motors that I know nothing about, was just curious about them.

Good motors. That was Rick Howart's company in the 80s, before Orion bought them out. He now works at Associated as Reedy's head guy.

Rick is a good guy and has a long history of competing with the big T and R.

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Re: Vintage Motors

Post by knucklebuster » Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:39 am

Eau Rouge, how many turns on the Cam? I am running one in an CE with aluminum hardware, Novak T4, AM Futaba and 3300 batteries. It is my fastest car on the clay oval. The motor winds up super fast... I'm guessing it's a single but don't know the turns. Thanks.

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Re: Vintage Motors

Post by Eau Rouge » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:09 am

All of the CAM motors looked identical, and had different winds (except the stockers). There is no way to tell just by looking at them, similar to a Twister. Mine is a 10 x 2, which is a ridiculously hot wind for that era. It was probably a paved or dirt oval motor for that time.

You can see if it's a single, double, triple, quad or more winding by looking at the naked arm. Count the strands on the comm tabs, and that's your winding. Generally, too, you can guess at the turns by the gauge of wire used and the amount on the individual pole. Lower wind motors usually had thicker gauge wire with obviously less actual wraps around each pole. I could make a guess by looking at it, but unfortunately, the only real way to know what it is would be to cut the winds off and count them—and I doubt you're about to do that anytime soon.

Some motor builders/gurus, could probably give you a more accurate guess than I, and even be able to test the current and draw through the wires to give you a better idea, but unless you know one of those 7 or 8 guys in the country, you're again out of luck. If you're lucky, the motor winder may have wrote or etched the turns on the arm. Some did, most didn't.

Be careful with that T4, a potentially hot modified, and the more contemporary 3300 cells. The voltage on those is considerably higher than the 1200s and 1400s that ESC was designed for. Those speedos were entry-level compared to the T1 and T1x and weren't meant for super hot winds or higher voltage batteries. Blowing that up today would be terminal, as Novak does not support those old speed controllers anymore.



Hope that helped,

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Post by Eau Rouge » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:21 am

Hope these help identify the windings and the wind counts... i had these sitting here, and I figured it couldn't hurt to show you a wind.
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Re: Vintage Motors

Post by knucklebuster » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:19 pm

Eau Rouge, thanks for the info! I haven't torn down the motor yet... hopefully some more info can be found on the arm when it's time to rebuild. If you ever want to part ways with the Cam, please let me know. You really should get rid of the oddball in your collection ;)

I smoked a T1 with this motor geared short in a 10L on a super sticky asphalt track. I was eating up newer (heavier) cars and having a great few minutes until the meltdown. Since then I made it a habit to touch test the temp of the esc on new setups with vintage electronics. Not the best method, but somewhat effective.

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Re: Vintage Motors

Post by Eau Rouge » Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:23 am

Hehe, that CAM in my collection is earmarked for a Chris Doseck Trinity Revolver 12 replica or another on-road homage. ;)

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Re: Vintage Motors

Post by Minicooper 35 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:54 pm

Hi guys,

sorry to dig this one out. Here's a pic of two Trinity Monster Horsepower motors I acquired a bit earlier this year here in Germany. From looking at the brushes (they are cutted) they seem to be onroad windings. I haven't opened them yet and the seller wasn't sure about it ...

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Re: Vintage Motors

Post by highwayracer » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:24 am

ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhh... REVTECH

I remember when I had REVTECH decals on the side of my 87 mustang. I wish I had one with a red can. I asked for green ones because it matched my color of my car. Very nice....thanks for sharing.

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Re: Vintage Motors

Post by V12 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:51 am

Eau Rouge wrote:While cleaning in the shop this afternoon, I found some of my favorite vintage motors, and I thought I'd share.

The first photo is my collection of original Checkpoint U.S.-made motors. Hens teeth in the R/C vintage world. A couple of those bad boys are never-run new.

The second photo shows a few of my other motors, including NOS Revtech 13t and a bevy of Twisters. There's a Wimpy stocker thrown in there for good measure, too.


I think I may be one of the few guys here that gets off more on the vintage electronics than the cars, themselves. :D
What´s the difference between those Checkpoint motors? Means the blue sticker a different winding than the black or silver sticker and what´s about the motors without stickers?

And what´s the difference between Platinum I and Platinum II motors?

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Re: Vintage Motors

Post by sgirouard » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:22 pm

I wish I could get my hands on the old Black Magic stock motor.

No decals on the can except for Black Magic in a box cut from green vinyl.

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Re: Vintage Motors

Post by tiger1 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:34 pm

black magic motor? Any photo? :D

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