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Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:18 pm
by HS-YZ250
XLR8 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:13 pm I raced CATs bitd (SWB then XLS) then went on an extended hiatus from RC so I missed the whole Lazer era. I very much enjoyed beating the Mids and Yokes :lol: but I still appreciated their design and engineering. Today, I have three CATs and five Mids so I guess that says something.
Anyway, from what I've seen, the Lazer is superior in every way to the original Mid but I never developed that "good ole' days" connection to them.
For me, the Lazer was the car I wanted to get when I I got into RC, but my parents got a JRX-T, which was the right move for 14 year old me, but I'm glad to finally see what I was missing 30 years ago.

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:22 pm
by XLR8
HS-YZ250 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:18 pm
XLR8 wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:13 pm I raced CATs bitd (SWB then XLS) then went on an extended hiatus from RC so I missed the whole Lazer era. I very much enjoyed beating the Mids and Yokes :lol: but I still appreciated their design and engineering. Today, I have three CATs and five Mids so I guess that says something.
Anyway, from what I've seen, the Lazer is superior in every way to the original Mid but I never developed that "good ole' days" connection to them.
For me, the Lazer was the car I wanted to get when I I got into RC, but my parents got a JRX-T, which was the right move for 14 year old me, but I'm glad to finally see what I was missing 30 years ago.
Ah, you youngsters. :mrgreen:

I picked up the RC hobby with my dad back in the early '70's. It was planes then but I quickly moved to cars.

One day Kyosho will finish re-releasing all the Mids and maybe they will move to Lazers. If the do, I'm getting one - if I'm still alive. :lol:

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:04 pm
by dinglem
Worlds prototype replica*

(*Minus all of the unique prototype parts)

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 10:54 am
by HS-YZ250
If it's of interest to anyone, kyosho has the parts list, exploded view, and manual up on the support section of their website : http://kyosho.com/eng/support/instructionmanual/legendary/legendary_index.html

I searched a few part numbers I think might be specific to this kit, but those don't appear to be up, yet.

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:09 am
by HS-YZ250
I don't suppose this or the aluminum brace fit the lazer. Do they?
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Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:09 am
by mikea96
I like the hard anodized look of the shocks better than the golds.

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:38 am
by TokyoProf
Here are pictures of the new 87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd next to Akira's 87 original from the Tokyo Hobby fair. Sorry most of my photos focused on the original.
No plans to reissue those vintage tires as of now...had to ask :)

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:20 am
by HS-YZ250
Those two screws at the front of the Upper Deck on Akira's Optima are interesting. The Rerelease kit has an M4 flathead hex screw with tapered washer, there. And maybe Akira's looks more substantial because I'm used to seeing a hex head instead of a slotted head.

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:41 am
by XLR8
Those are some great photos, thanks for posting them here. :D
It's a shame about the tires but I reckon suitable copies could be printed.
If I had a printer, I'd certainly give it a try.

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:37 am
by 1911Colt
dinglem wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:04 pm Worlds prototype replica*

(*Minus all of the unique prototype parts)
Saying the quiet part out loud :lol:

I would like to see manufacturers include some of the racer hacks as optional. Static model car kits used to come with parts to build the car as it left the show room, but also custom wheels and tires, upgraded engine components, race decals, etc. The builder got the parts to build himself a Cuda, or a Sox and Martin Cuda.

I thought Kyosho would be the first to do it since they started down that path with the Optima (belts and chains- take your pick).

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:05 pm
by Retro rc
Anyone know what that is in the centre of the chassis that the speedi feeds are soldered to. Never seen that before

Best view is in the 7th pic

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:29 pm
by HS-YZ250
Retro rc wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:05 pm Anyone know what that is in the centre of the chassis that the speedi feeds are soldered to. Never seen that before

Best view is in the 7th pic
The black lead?

Some racers used to forgo connectors and just solder the leads directly to the battery, like many did/do to the motor. You can see the positive lead where the wires seem to tuck into the pad for the battery.

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2023 2:47 pm
by GoMachV
It's just the battery holder. The lead that goes between the battery and motor is sitting behind it making it look like it is a device but it is not. The small red wire runs back to the speed control. Airtronics appears to control power over the negative lead instead of the positive lead.

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:49 am
by dinglem
1911Colt wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:37 am
dinglem wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:04 pm Worlds prototype replica*

(*Minus all of the unique prototype parts)
Saying the quiet part out loud :lol:

I would like to see manufacturers include some of the racer hacks as optional. Static model car kits used to come with parts to build the car as it left the show room, but also custom wheels and tires, upgraded engine components, race decals, etc. The builder got the parts to build himself a Cuda, or a Sox and Martin Cuda.

I thought Kyosho would be the first to do it since they started down that path with the Optima (belts and chains- take your pick).
This is nothing but a Kyosho money spinner - a green re-re Mid, that when you read the print doesn’t even come in green. It is absolutely nothing like the prototype ‘87 car. No thanks.

Re: OPTIMA MID '87 WC Worlds Spec Ltd Ed.

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:31 pm
by Frankentruck
Does the ReRe Mid have ball diffs and universal swingshafts, or is that only in the special edition?