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Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:05 pm
by EvolutionRevolution
On the other (later) side of the list, there are:
- two types of the black kelron shocks with silver caps: one type with a toothed ring that can be set in different positions to adjust the spring tension, and one without that simply uses clips to set the spring tension. The latter strongly resembles the later plastic Sports Shocks (available in black, yellow, blue, green).
- Equalizer shocks also exist in various variants, IIRC without a parts number change, and were followed by the Ultimate Shocks (which were also upgraded somewhere along the way without a parts number change - really annoying).
- Somewhere around the same time the (Super-Short) Touring Shocks were introduced, soon followed by the Teflon Touring Shocks, which received their own variant of the Ultimate Shocks as another upgrade (which exist in at least two variants regarding the way the spring tension is set - fortunately this time with different part numbers). These shocks received further upgrades (threaded body or not, spring setting ring with o-ring or not, design of spring setting ring, etc.) for each new touring car chassis (gas or electric) Kyosho released.
- The Teflon Touring Shocks were later reissued as optional shocks for the Mini Inferno in the early 00's.
- Kyosho's late 1990s offroad cars got the Twin Cap Pro shocks, which persisted until early Lazer ZX-5 cars.
- Various "Sports" variants of the TF series cars got plastic-bodies shocks with a different cap design and a smaller inner diameter.
- The KX-One got alloy shocks with adjustable pistons.
- ZX-5 Readyset and various early 00's gas cars came with threaded plastic-bodied shocks resembling Twin Cap Pros.
- Triple Cap Shocks.
- Big Bore Triple Cap Shocks.

AFAIK all parts of all shocks with hex-shaped caps starting with the Equalizers up to and including the Twin Cap Pros are basically interchangeable - the shock diameter is the same. I can't give an exact list of especially the touring shocks because of the continuous changes on the parts' design.

Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:07 pm
by DennisM
I hear You Phin :lol: just deduct 2mm from everything I say :mrgreen:

The short "CB" shocks are FM71 shocks for the Fantom.

Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:15 pm
by TomEG
DennisM wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:07 pm The short "CB" shocks are FM71 shocks for the Fantom.
No, the #1886 shocks are a little bit shorter than the FM71 shocks, and was an upgrade for the Scorpion series and some gas buggies.
Kyosho #1886 - Shocks small.jpg

Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:24 pm
by DennisM
Tom EG - Thanks for clarifying

Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:39 pm
by TomEG
Thanks for reminding me of the FM-71 shocks. I had forgotten about them. And to add even more to the confusion, both the FM-71 and CB shocks came in v1 and v2 versions, with the v1 having the fill cap at the top, and the v2 at the bottom. AFAIK the #1886 only came in the v2 bottom cap version.

CB top cap (v1)
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Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:49 pm
by DennisM
Seems like it was a running change on the LandJump 4D? - Mine has the old shocks, but I´ve seen several with the second version shocks.
The shock upgrade kits I´ve seen for the CB 20 series are version 2

Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:59 pm
by DennisM
EvolutionRevolution wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:05 pm
- Equalizer shocks also exist in various variants, IIRC without a parts number change, and were followed by the Ultimate Shocks (which were also upgraded somewhere along the way without a parts number change - really annoying).
It seems strange that the Equalizers with threaded adjustment came before the Ultimate with clamp adjustment.
Do You know of any buggy that came with the Equalizers? The two Pro-X, I have, came with Ultimates

Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:27 pm
by TomEG
Haha, now things are getting a bit too new for me to add anything. I'm stuck in the 80's :lol:

Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:25 pm
by Phin
Didn't the CB style shocks also change from brass bottom caps to aluminum?

Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:49 pm
by EvolutionRevolution
DennisM wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:59 pm
EvolutionRevolution wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:05 pm
- Equalizer shocks also exist in various variants, IIRC without a parts number change, and were followed by the Ultimate Shocks (which were also upgraded somewhere along the way without a parts number change - really annoying).
It seems strange that the Equalizers with threaded adjustment came before the Ultimate with clamp adjustment.
Do You know of any buggy that came with the Equalizers? The two Pro-X, I have, came with Ultimates
I think they were meant as upgrades for Kyosho's GP-10 on-road series of cars. Which reminds me that those cars sometimes show up on Y! Auctions Japan with Ultimates in a blue/gold color scheme that apparently wasn't available at retail...

Re: Old Turbo Rocky worth anything?

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:55 pm
by TomEG
Phin wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2017 2:25 pm Didn't the CB style shocks also change from brass bottom caps to aluminum?
Yes, they did.... so then we actually have v1, v2 and v3.