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Re: Schumacher Timeline

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Wasn't there one in the late90's called the fireblade or something? I seem to remember one.

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Jason, I'm pretty sure your description of the Procat SE is incorrect - it definitely didn't have dark green varishocks & I'm fairly confident it didn't have a C/F chassis or 23mm diffs either. Coincidently I was having a conversation with terry.sc a few months ago about this model and he backed this up. I hope Terry doesn't mind me quoting him, but he's pretty much a bible on vintage RC :D

"The Procat SE was as you say an end of line special to clear old stock. Nothing special, the only differences between a Procat and the SE were Bosscats varishocks and the Bosscats Aerodisc wheels, so the SE could run 2.2" tyres. That's it. here's a picture of one"

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Good work Ian. I only ever saw a black and white add for the Procat SE and a breif description of its attributes years ago. I've never actually seen one but I was trying to remember what the car had. Thankyou for you clearing this up for me.
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Erich Reichert wrote:Wasn't there one in the late90's called the fireblade or something? I seem to remember one.
The Cougar 95 was followed by the Fireblade, the Fireblade Evo and the Fireblade USA, all a development of the Cougar 2000 range.
minichamps11 wrote:The Procat SE was as you say an end of line special to clear old stock. Nothing special, the only differences between a Procat and the SE were Bosscats varishocks and the Bosscats Aerodisc wheels, so the SE could run 2.2" tyres.
I'm sure I've posted that somewhere recently :?
I hope Terry doesn't mind me quoting him, but he's pretty much a bible on vintage RC :D
:oops: :oops: :oops: The result of spending too much time in my youth with r/c cars. :lol:
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Below is my Schumacher timeline. This only lists electric buggies, not nitro cars or the Wildcat series. Prices are actual retail prices around the time the kit was launched (not RRP - the CAT 2000EC RRP was £335!!)
I'm pretty confident the years are correct for the UK as I used manuals, catalogues & modelshop adverts and not magazine reviews which are notoriously late. However the release order within a given year might not be accurate. Some cars such as the Bosscat and the CAT 2000 were sold alongside each other for a while, and others such as the Club10 & Cougar 2000 were upgraded over time, but kept the same kit part number. Hope this helps any Schumacher fans out there. If I've got anything wrong, or anyone has more info about which cars won what races please get in touch & I'll edit it - enjoy!

1986 SWB CAT T400 £175
1987 CAT XL 2wd T402 ?
1987 CAT XL 4wd T401 £175 '87 World champion winner (Masami Hirosaksa), '87 Euros Winner (Phil Davies)
1988 CAT XLS T403 £175
1988 Topcat U404J £99
1989 Procat U409N £180 1989, 1990 Euro Champ (Stephen Oberle & Phil Davies)
1990 Cougar U415T £90 Won worlds '91 warmup. 1990 Eurochamp with Jurgen Lautenbach
1990 911 Turbo SE Road & Track U417V £110 Porsche shell on Cougar chassis
1990 RS 4x4 Road & Track U416U £180 Ford Sierra Sapphire RS Cosworth shell on Procat chassis
1991 Shotgun truck U419X £130 Cougar based
1991 Cougar 2 Sport U429H £95 Hybrid 23mm diff, varishocks but no slipper and not fully ballraced
1991 Cougar 2 Racing U430I £119 Slipper, 10 sealed ballraces, full spring set
1991 Cougar 2 Team U431J £150 Roller d/shafts, fully ballraced inc. steering
1992 Bosscat Competition Spec U440S £240 ROAR, UK, Scandinavian National champion, 3rd in Euros (Ben Sturnham) '93
1992 Club10 Cougar U441T £79 "Sport" version of Cougar. 540 motor + MSC
1992 Club10 Storm U443V £89 Based on Cougar - "sport" version of Storm truck. 540 motor + MSC
1992 Procat SE U427F £175 Special edition with 2.2" wheels & light coloured varishocks, and MK.1 slipper plus rr anti roll bar
1992 Storm truck U432K £150 Cougar 2 based with Cougar mk.1 frt wishbones
1992 Bosscat Sport U444W £150 Original Sport version with black shocks
1992 Cougar 2 Works U452E £170
Purple chassis, new gearbox casing, mounted in different place, works rear suspension, carbon fibre shock mounts plastic battery strap
1993 Cougar 2 Works U453F
No ballraced steering or alloy roller driveshafts
1993 Storm truck Works U454G £150 Never seen one
1993 Bosscat Works U455H £240 Released March 1993
1993 Cougar 2000 U457J £190 Double deck composite chassis, geared drivetrain
1993 CAT 2000 U460M £249 Released October '93. 2nd (Kevin Moore) & 3rd (William Mitcham) '93 Worlds. Euro 1994 winner Austria (Craig Drescher), 1995 Euros winner Finland (Craig Drescher),
1993 Club10 2wd Escort Cosworth U439R £95
1994 Cougar 2000 '94 Spec U457J £190 As per 1993 car, but now with Co-Axial driveshafts & diff to match
1994 CAT 2000 Touring U496W £240 Calibra shell
1994 Bosscat Sport U471X £135 Red shocks version inc. motor & MSC
1994 Storm 2000 U461N £199 Cougar 2000 based truck
1994 Cougar 2000/95 spec U474A £199 Also known as "XPC" spec with narrow chassis, SACs
1995 Cougar '95 Team U499Z £199 3rd at 1994 Euros - narrow chassis, new rr sus. Geometry
1995 CAT 2000 EC U498Y £299 CAT 2000 with new shell, sus. Geometry & laydown shocks 1995 Euros Winner, Finland (Craig Drescher), 1996 & 1997 Euros Winner (Jukka Steenari)
1995 CAT 2000 ECS U401F £199 Sport cheap version of the EC (no slipper etc)
1995 Club10 mk.2 Cougar U441T £89
1995 Club10 mk.2 Escort Cosworth Touring U439R £99
1995 Club10 mk.2 Alfa Romeo 155 Touring U475B £99
1995 Club10 mk.2 Opel Calibra Touring U476C £99
1995 Club10 mk.2 Mercedes C-Class U477D £99
1995 Club10 mk.2 Ford Mondeo Touring U478E £99
1995 Club 10 mk.2 Storm truck U443V £99
1995 Bosscat touring Escort Cosworth U473Z £135
1995 Bosscat touring Alfa Romeo 155 U483J £135
1995 Bosscat touring Opel Calibra U484K £135
1995 Bosscat touring Mercedes C-Class U485L £135
1995 Bosscat touring Ford Mondeo U486M £135
1996 Fireblade 2000 U407L £150 96 TQ & Pole (Jukka Steenari), 2nd/3rd place at '97 Euros
1997 CAT 2000 SE U408M £295 Based on spec of Jukka Steenari's 1996 Euro Champ car
1997 CAT '98 U421D £299 2nd/3rd place at '97 worlds
1998 Fireblade USA U424G £150 Upright shock angles (equal frt & rr), 7 cell slots, new motor position
2000 CAT 3000 KO19X £240 Evolution of CAT 2000 series - Losi XX4 style layout (motor at front)
1999 Fireblade EVO mk.1 KO15T £150 Evolution of Cougar 2000 series
2002 CAT 3000 "EVO" KO19X £240 Long rr shocks, medium frt, cells further rearwards
2002 Fireblade EVO mk.2 KO15T £150 Chassis mods for strength, new frt & rear towers, larger rr whl bearings

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Wow, nice job dude :shock:
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I was surprised to find references to a Storm "Works" when researching this - I've never even heard of one, let alone seen one. Any one got any piccies?

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Very good job on that list. Thanks for helping out Ian.
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Would be really good to compile a list of all Schumacher's Euro / National / world championship results against each of these cars - I've started as you can see.

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Well done Ian fair play :)

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Awesome work minichamps11, thanks a lot :D
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Awesome job! Thanks!!

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Super Job minichamps11.....
Craig Drescher won the 1995 Euro´s with a cat 2000

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Cheers Old Racer - added that.

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Ian,

Kevin Moore came 2nd and William Mitcham 3rd in the 1993 Worlds using Cat 2000's (2 months before the retail kit was available) a bit like Masami in 87 with a Modifed XL later released as a XLS.
Ben Sturnham come 3rd in 93 Euros with a Bosscat. Kevin Moore Won in 2wd with a Cougar 2000
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