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Burns 4wd Turbo

Post by BrenNZ » Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:07 am

Hi

Does anyone now what the engine is on the right hand side of this photo?
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I've been given an old buggy which ive found out is an kyosho burns 4wd turbo. Its in a bad state.
I'm not looking to restore it to new but I do want to tidy it up and get it going to near original.

The chassis has 2 positions I can mount the rear gearbox to the chassis to extend the wheel base but in the manual the burns 4wd turbo has only 1 position... does that mean someone made a new chassis??

It has loads of spares, including some SPANKY carbon fibre front and rear suspension mounting plates! it must have been quite the machine back in the day.

two engines in the box which are both in parts. O.S 21 EX and the other which i hope someone knows what it is.

The O.S has a broken conrod and some damage to the actualy crank case. Ive found a new rod and actually found a brand new crank case which was so cheap i had to get it. :lol:
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Thanks.
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Re: What is this engine?

Post by Lonestar » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:17 am

BrenNZ wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:07 am
Hi

Does anyone now what the engine is on the right hand side of this photo?

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It's a Mondial Motor - Made by OPS in Italy in the 80's/90's. Ron Paris used to prepare some OPS's bitd.

There is an official "what is it" thread here - better to post there than all over the forum: viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14461

Very nice find, this Burns with all the gear :)
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Re: Burns 4wd Turbo

Post by BrenNZ » Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:19 am

Hey - thanks a lot.

I've changed the name of the topic so i'll keep posting my updates here and questions here.. ;)

Great i'll go look up that engine now! 8)

O.S 21 EX engine casing and Rod arrived today. the original has bad damage to the casing.
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Re: What is this engine?

Post by BrenNZ » Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:59 am

Lonestar wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:17 am

It's a Mondial Motor - Made by OPS in Italy in the 80's/90's. Ron Paris used to prepare some OPS's bitd.

There is an official "what is it" thread here - better to post there than all over the forum: viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14461

Very nice find, this Burns with all the gear :)
Hey

I cant find ANY parts for the OPS engine at all. So if i was to replace it with a modern engine of today can you suggest what it would be?

Thanks again!

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Re: Burns 4wd Turbo

Post by Lonestar » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:02 am

That's a pretty vast question you're asking here :lol:

Even if I was still involved into 8th IC, I'd be struggling to answer it... this is a vintage buggy, if you're planning on running it, don't buy a thoroughbred race engine, but a somewhat detuned version instead, so you can baby that old car around the track. If this is for shelving it, I'd keep that MM, because it's correct from a period standpoint :P

Sorry I can't be of more help here :(
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Re: Burns 4wd Turbo

Post by BrenNZ » Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:15 am

Lonestar wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:02 am
That's a pretty vast question you're asking here :lol:

Even if I was still involved into 8th IC, I'd be struggling to answer it... this is a vintage buggy, if you're planning on running it, don't buy a thoroughbred race engine, but a somewhat detuned version instead, so you can baby that old car around the track. If this is for shelving it, I'd keep that MM, because it's correct from a period standpoint :P

Sorry I can't be of more help here :(
haha its not going to sit in a shelf... I want to have some fun with it! :mrgreen:

So what you are saying is something like https://www.ebay.com/itm/O-S-MAX-21-VG- ... Sw6DtYRHa1 is going to be more than enough for me to thrash it around the garden...

thanks

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Re: Burns 4wd Turbo

Post by Lonestar » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:04 am

BrenNZ wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:15 am
Lonestar wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:02 am
That's a pretty vast question you're asking here :lol:

Even if I was still involved into 8th IC, I'd be struggling to answer it... this is a vintage buggy, if you're planning on running it, don't buy a thoroughbred race engine, but a somewhat detuned version instead, so you can baby that old car around the track. If this is for shelving it, I'd keep that MM, because it's correct from a period standpoint :P

Sorry I can't be of more help here :(
haha its not going to sit in a shelf... I want to have some fun with it! :mrgreen:

So what you are saying is something like https://www.ebay.com/itm/O-S-MAX-21-VG- ... Sw6DtYRHa1 is going to be more than enough for me to thrash it around the garden...

thanks
What I'm saying is, just don't put too hot an engine in this old lady - any entry-level mill from 2018 is much faster than most top-of-the-line engine from the 80's! This is not even considering that your plastics are older than they should be to withstand a lot of power anyway. You don't do an LS swap in a C4... :)

Having said that, and having run 8th IC myself in the past, I would definitely recommend against buying a used mill for sure, unless they are from a well known racer or someone who takes excellent care of their stuff...

Good luck :)
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Re: Burns 4wd Turbo

Post by BrenNZ » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:32 am

ok thanks... so a new entry level engine will be just the ticket then.

Will keep you updated! :lol:

My next questions will be about the radio gear. Stay tuned! :lol: :lol:

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