Flat sided can info?

Brushed, nicad, radios, etc...

Moderators: scr8p, klavy69

Post Reply
User avatar
dinglem
Approved Member
Posts: 1374
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:45 am
Location: Lichfield, UK
Has thanked: 243 times
Been thanked: 626 times

Flat sided can info?

Post by dinglem »

Does anybody have any info on this unusual can and end bell please? Never seen one before.
image.jpg
image.jpg
CAT SWB&XL, Meteor (x3), RC10 custom, RC10 Graphite, Goldpan, 870c (x2), Works 91, Samurai, Pro Radiant (x2), Mini Mustang&Maxima, Mid Turbo, TOP Hybrid , Coyote, Hot Trick Optima, Supercharge, Brimod, 'Rory Cull' Hotshot, SRB.

tamiyadan
Approved Member
Posts: 1690
Joined: Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:45 pm
Been thanked: 6 times

Re: Flat sided can info?

Post by tamiyadan »

.

User avatar
dinglem
Approved Member
Posts: 1374
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:45 am
Location: Lichfield, UK
Has thanked: 243 times
Been thanked: 626 times

Re: Flat sided can info?

Post by dinglem »

It's an MG Exterminator label, and came in a batch of 10 MG's. I ran them and collect them, but never seen this one before. The batch comes with a few team specials, so this might be a one-off experimental MG motor perhaps.
CAT SWB&XL, Meteor (x3), RC10 custom, RC10 Graphite, Goldpan, 870c (x2), Works 91, Samurai, Pro Radiant (x2), Mini Mustang&Maxima, Mid Turbo, TOP Hybrid , Coyote, Hot Trick Optima, Supercharge, Brimod, 'Rory Cull' Hotshot, SRB.

User avatar
GoMachV
Approved Member
Posts: 11156
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:31 pm
Location: Twin Falls, ID
Has thanked: 743 times
Been thanked: 2146 times

Re: Flat sided can info?

Post by GoMachV »

V12 will know, just have to wait for him to come around
It's time to stand up to the bully. Support the companies that support the industry, not the ones that tear it down. Say no to Traxxas
Factory Works website

User avatar
dinglem
Approved Member
Posts: 1374
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:45 am
Location: Lichfield, UK
Has thanked: 243 times
Been thanked: 626 times

Re: Flat sided can info?

Post by dinglem »

I've been told it might be a bit of a one-off prototype that was being tested by MG, but am awaiting more info.
CAT SWB&XL, Meteor (x3), RC10 custom, RC10 Graphite, Goldpan, 870c (x2), Works 91, Samurai, Pro Radiant (x2), Mini Mustang&Maxima, Mid Turbo, TOP Hybrid , Coyote, Hot Trick Optima, Supercharge, Brimod, 'Rory Cull' Hotshot, SRB.

User avatar
dinglem
Approved Member
Posts: 1374
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:45 am
Location: Lichfield, UK
Has thanked: 243 times
Been thanked: 626 times

Re: Flat sided can info?

Post by dinglem »

Just a quick note on this as i forgot to update the thread.

I managed to track down and speak to Mick Goddard (Mr.MG), who is now approaching 80 years old(!) and ask him about this. He told me he had been working on a batch of 12 of these flat-sided motor cans, and only one was ever released out to one of his team drivers for testing - the same guy i indirectly sourced it off. He also said he would still expect this to way out perform anything else he ever made due to the magnet strength and elevated torque output. He machined the endbell and can base himself. Pretty cool! I forgot to ask him where he sourced the can itself, so I will try to gather more information on that from him.

I have quite a few original MG armatures to try out in it, so hopefully i will have it up and running soon to see how it performs on the dyno.
26169398_10156972647966258_5211983723977610933_n.jpg
26169398_10156972647966258_5211983723977610933_n.jpg (42.36 KiB) Viewed 1109 times
26169398_10156972647966258_5211983723977610933_n.jpg
26169398_10156972647966258_5211983723977610933_n.jpg (42.36 KiB) Viewed 1109 times
26168264_10156972648056258_7440157354151782749_n.jpg
26168264_10156972648056258_7440157354151782749_n.jpg (32.4 KiB) Viewed 1109 times
26168264_10156972648056258_7440157354151782749_n.jpg
26168264_10156972648056258_7440157354151782749_n.jpg (32.4 KiB) Viewed 1109 times
26168718_10156972662466258_9112849090998563341_n.jpg
26168718_10156972662466258_9112849090998563341_n.jpg (36.39 KiB) Viewed 1109 times
26168718_10156972662466258_9112849090998563341_n.jpg
26168718_10156972662466258_9112849090998563341_n.jpg (36.39 KiB) Viewed 1109 times
CAT SWB&XL, Meteor (x3), RC10 custom, RC10 Graphite, Goldpan, 870c (x2), Works 91, Samurai, Pro Radiant (x2), Mini Mustang&Maxima, Mid Turbo, TOP Hybrid , Coyote, Hot Trick Optima, Supercharge, Brimod, 'Rory Cull' Hotshot, SRB.

User avatar
dinglem
Approved Member
Posts: 1374
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:45 am
Location: Lichfield, UK
Has thanked: 243 times
Been thanked: 626 times

Re: Flat sided can - UPDATE

Post by dinglem »

Well, a little progress on this MG prototype today. One motor builder has had this motor for a total of 12months and failed to get it going. With a fresh armature it wouldn't even spin up under power; totally dead.

A second guy popped up and said he would like to look at it, somebody who had been as personal friend of Mr.Reedy in the past and also somebody who ran his own race team and built his own motor brand BRM. He has had the motor for 24hours and has got it up and running :o

The builder thinks the entire motor has been fabricated in the MG workshop, can, base plate and endbell. Pretty damn cool if you ask me, and i love the base of the can which has had those slots machined in before the end plate was secured into place.

Supposedly according to Mick Goddard this motor will generate a lot of torque, so we have actually opted for a milder wind of armature to make the thing very smooth and driveable. MG were known for using the ceramic 'Race Prep' armatures for a period of 8 months through the summer of 1990 (they also used the black can wet magnet Race Prep 27T standard and labelled it their Orange Dot around the same time), and as i had a nice mild 20Single ceramic armature in my collection i though we would give this a go. The can has now been zapped (no mean feat as it didn't sit correctly in the zapper at all!), and the motor has been soft-built in order to check the tolerances etc... are suitable. Tomorrow the hope is for the comm to be skimmed the bearings and brushes to be replaced with new and then the whole unit will be locked down ready for dyno testing. Just got to find a dyno it will fit onto now :shock:

Here's the quick mock-up from today - pretty wild looking!!
49140361_216593112608514_8303178416128000000_n.jpg
49304793_2158190471113091_4026223306729324544_n.jpg
CAT SWB&XL, Meteor (x3), RC10 custom, RC10 Graphite, Goldpan, 870c (x2), Works 91, Samurai, Pro Radiant (x2), Mini Mustang&Maxima, Mid Turbo, TOP Hybrid , Coyote, Hot Trick Optima, Supercharge, Brimod, 'Rory Cull' Hotshot, SRB.

User avatar
dinglem
Approved Member
Posts: 1374
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:45 am
Location: Lichfield, UK
Has thanked: 243 times
Been thanked: 626 times

Re: Flat sided can info?

Post by dinglem »

Yup. I can confirm. It is awesome.
mg proto 001.jpg
mg proto 002.jpg
mg proto 004.jpg
CAT SWB&XL, Meteor (x3), RC10 custom, RC10 Graphite, Goldpan, 870c (x2), Works 91, Samurai, Pro Radiant (x2), Mini Mustang&Maxima, Mid Turbo, TOP Hybrid , Coyote, Hot Trick Optima, Supercharge, Brimod, 'Rory Cull' Hotshot, SRB.

User avatar
dinglem
Approved Member
Posts: 1374
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:45 am
Location: Lichfield, UK
Has thanked: 243 times
Been thanked: 626 times

Re: Flat sided can info?

Post by dinglem »

Hand made endbell needs a bit of a clean up, but still looks like it came from Mars.
49075587_1612872365483040_8322785732108222464_n.jpg
CAT SWB&XL, Meteor (x3), RC10 custom, RC10 Graphite, Goldpan, 870c (x2), Works 91, Samurai, Pro Radiant (x2), Mini Mustang&Maxima, Mid Turbo, TOP Hybrid , Coyote, Hot Trick Optima, Supercharge, Brimod, 'Rory Cull' Hotshot, SRB.

Moggie XL
Approved Member
Posts: 119
Joined: Mon May 28, 2007 6:58 am
Location: Goole UK
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 5 times

Re: Flat sided can info?

Post by Moggie XL »

Have you found out why the flats were machined into the can. It reminds me of Trinity stock motors

Post Reply

Create an account or sign in to join the discussion

You need to be a member in order to post a reply

Create an account

Not a member? register to join our community
Members can start their own topics & subscribe to topics
It’s free and only takes a minute

Register

Sign in

  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post
  • Double sided A stamp??
    by joeshovz » » in Temple's RC10 Tech Forum
    11 Replies
    1485 Views
    Last post by joeshovz
  • flat tire
    by londone4 » » in RC10 Buggy Forum
    10 Replies
    1052 Views
    Last post by Ruffy
  • flat tires
    by GoMachV » » in Off-Topic / Chit-Chat
    6 Replies
    704 Views
    Last post by Lowgear
  • Flat black and lexan
    by Coelacanth » » in The Paint / Body Shop
    18 Replies
    3021 Views
    Last post by jwscab
  • Are the tubs ment to be flat?
    by graemevw » » in RC10 Buggy Forum
    12 Replies
    1180 Views
    Last post by graemevw
  • proline flat stubbies
    by mikea96 » » in Temple's RC10 Tech Forum
    0 Replies
    918 Views
    Last post by mikea96
  • Flat head screws
    by DMAT » » in Temple's RC10 Tech Forum
    1 Replies
    439 Views
    Last post by GoMachV
  • What uses a6207 Alum Flat Head 8-32 x 1/4?
    by mytimac » » in Losi Forum
    1 Replies
    482 Views
    Last post by Brandon G

Return to “Vintage Electronics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 17 guests