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Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:18 pm
by pumpkinfish
Fred,

Could this type of arm widening be done for the B2/B3 and retain driveablity? I read somewhere long ago someone tried to convert a B2 to modern wheels and it messed up all the roll centers and they couldn't get the buggy to turn/handle properly. I would love to drive my B2 more at our track, but it is hard tracking down the correct narrow fronts (or making them) and pin rears, not to mention the cost of buying double the wheels/tires. If I could use my B5m wheels it would be so much easier!

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:25 pm
by jwscab
you should be able to use the re-release worlds wheels to fit the b2/b3. rears are drop on, the front are b4, but trim the inner ring.

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:12 pm
by fredswain
The B3 outer to outer hinge pin distance is the same as the B4/5 distance so it would seem that you should be able to use SC10 front hubs on a B3 arm and use modern hex front wheels with no issues. At the rear you should just be able to add hexes on a B3 rear arm equipped car and use modern hex rears. That's just a hunch and would need to be verified though.

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:02 pm
by Beau S
Gotcha!

I didn't think you were trying to copy the geometry. I was trying to note the evolution was move the holes closer together, like you've done, and their progression to only play with placement of an outer mount position, not more inner holes.

Your arms sound perfect for the project I'm building!! :-)

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:41 am
by mk-Zero
I've had my car with these arms on the track a couple times, and some pretty good crashes, so far so good with the durability of these.

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:00 am
by Beau S
Sweet!

I should my fr/rr arms in about a week!

How have you changed your shock setup for them?

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 12:40 am
by Beau S
Fred I got my arms today. I've got them died and I've already mounted him. These are awesome! What a great design thank you for making them!! I followed your steps and they mount up perfectly. I still the original arm inner hinge pins.

I can't wait for sle track time!

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:44 am
by fredswain
Awesome. Post a pic of them mounted when you can and let me know how it drives.

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:45 pm
by JK Racing
fredswain wrote:let me know how it drives.
I'm planning a build on them, looking for this same feedback!

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:02 pm
by fredswain
I know they fit. I just haven't had a chance to drive them yet.

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:11 pm
by mk-Zero
The front drive great on my mid motor car, as Joey can attest to. I need to order the rears...
Super durable too, I lost track of how many crashes and cartwheels they have survived :P

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:02 pm
by fredswain
I'm thinking about doing an alternate rear arm that allows the use of B5 rear hubs. I'm also going to do a set of wide front arms for the RPM world's conversions but they'll look like these fronts. At least as much as possible.

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:33 pm
by mk-Zero
What's the RPM World's conversion?

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:57 pm
by Beau S
Fred, matching that design for Worlds Frontend Arms would be awesome, too!

Now.. If you were going to make an alternative rear arms for B5 hub, you have to do the same for the front too!! Just saying.. Ying/Yang and all that. Lol

I posted some quick pics on Rc10 Vintage Mania group, on FB. They need to be resized before I can post them here, but I will take some better pics & get the here soon.

Re: Wider suspension arms

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:01 pm
by JK Racing
mk-Zero wrote:What's the RPM World's conversion?
using the narrow truck nose, the WOIN formula for a while :)