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Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:20 pm
by bully
Thankyou sir, i emailed rw to find out what they have on offer for the zx an am waiting to hear back..I will strip car once i gather sum bits an see what is happening with the drivetrain thanks... Kyosho fan 2 any idea on drive ratio so i can work out what spurs an pinions i might need? Thanks again mate very helpful... :mrgreen:

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:02 am
by Welshy40
Wahey, finally managed to get the user name i use everywhere else so goodbye kyosho fan2.

Ive done a complete ratio with a site, i will find it for you and post the link. Fyi all but one kyosho driver used a 100 tooth spur gear, Bob Gammon liked the 99 tooth on carpet.

Heres what i wrote on Oople forum.

Ok ive worked out the internal ratio and have an exact ratio chart to the Kyosho manual and is 2.214:1 and used a 100t spur and 17t pinion so gives you a range from pinion size 10 to 25 for a cariety of spur sizes so should be enough for all.

So if you use a gear ratio chart like this you have all the info you need to make it. http://www.gearchart.com/index.cfm?f...n=chart.create

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:16 pm
by Coelacanth
bully wrote:Thankyou sir, i emailed rw to find out what they have on offer for the zx an am waiting to hear back..I will strip car once i gather sum bits an see what is happening with the drivetrain thanks... Kyosho fan 2 any idea on drive ratio so i can work out what spurs an pinions i might need? Thanks again mate very helpful... :mrgreen:
It also depends on the tire diameter of the tires you plan to use, that's another important factor in the rollout equation.

Assuming you're using tires with a "typical" 2.2" wheel size & diameter--say about 88 or so millimeters--and a 100T spur, you might want to consider trying a 20 or 21T pinion gear. What is the stock spur gear size on a Lazer ZX, and what are you planning to use?

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:26 pm
by bully
All sorted guys thanks,i worked back from the manuals gear chart an figured the ratio out so i can sort the rest by myself now thanks alot kyosho fans.. :mrgreen:

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:57 am
by Welshy40
100t is the only spur gear made by Kyosho. Having proline tyres or schumacher the car goes well with the same ratio.

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:13 am
by Coelacanth
bully wrote:All sorted guys thanks,i worked back from the manuals gear chart an figured the ratio out so i can sort the rest by myself now thanks alot kyosho fans.. :mrgreen:
Let us know what you're going with. Helps out future members with the same question and all. ;)

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:21 am
by Welshy40
Easy

5.5 use 21
6.5 use 22 and so on

Be warned youll snap the rear belt as no tensioners were designed in the rear gearbox. I have however done a proto type rear carbon fibre gearbox with tensioners and can handle easily a 4.5 so will use the proto as a template to get a new gearbox designed and will be available to buy. You will need a front belt tensioner and that I have no idea what youll want to use but have designed a cf L plate for use with a tensioner.

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:04 am
by bully
I think std spur is 84t,,It will prob be stock motor just easy cruisey kind of runs on practice day or 10.5.. Be a while i gotta save up some more an give her the once over,need turnbuckles,undertray ,body an the dbl wing +6061ky wheels +tyres. Got some 6063ky wheels an RW 100t spurs on the way to use at the track..Cheers for all the help an patience guys :mrgreen:

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:48 pm
by Coelacanth
bully wrote:I think std spur is 84t,,It will prob be stock motor just easy cruisey kind of runs on practice day or 10.5.. Be a while i gotta save up some more an give her the once over,need turnbuckles,undertray ,body an the dbl wing +6061ky wheels +tyres. Got some 6063ky wheels an RW 100t spurs on the way to use at the track..Cheers for all the help an patience guys :mrgreen:
What was the stock pinion gear size for the Lazer ZX? It's for a spreadsheet gear ratio/rollout ratio calculator I'm compiling. Thanks!

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:37 pm
by terry.sc
Coelacanth wrote:What was the stock pinion gear size for the Lazer ZX? It's for a spreadsheet gear ratio/rollout ratio calculator I'm compiling. Thanks!
Standard pinion is 20T for the ZX with 88T spur, 0.6 module gears.
Standard pinion for ZX-R is 22T with 100T spur, 48dp gears.

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:45 pm
by Coelacanth
terry.sc wrote:
Coelacanth wrote:What was the stock pinion gear size for the Lazer ZX? It's for a spreadsheet gear ratio/rollout ratio calculator I'm compiling. Thanks!
Standard pinion is 20T for the ZX with 88T spur, 0.6 module gears.
Standard pinion for ZX-R is 22T with 100T spur, 48dp gears.
Thank you very much, Terry. The actual transmission ratio on the Lazers is indeed 2.214:1? And lastly, I'd appreciate to confirm the tire diameter of the Lazer tires. I imagine they're in the neighborhood of 90mm?

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:56 pm
by Welshy40
Doh!!! I forgot about the Lazer ZX .6 gears. Sorry.

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:42 pm
by terry.sc
Coelacanth wrote:Thank you very much, Terry. The actual transmission ratio on the Lazers is indeed 2.214:1? And lastly, I'd appreciate to confirm the tire diameter of the Lazer tires. I imagine they're in the neighborhood of 90mm?
The pulley sizes are 31/14, which is 2.2143. Can't help with original tyre sizes though, mine aren't as easy to get at as my Lazer spares.

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:40 pm
by Coelacanth
Awesome. If anybody can measure the diameter of a new Lazer ZX or ZX-R tire, from the tip of one spike to the tip of an opposite spike, that would be greatly appreciated.

Re: lazer zx New questions

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:17 am
by bully
I measured a slighty worn set of original zx fronts an they are just under 80mm,new prob 81mm or maybe 82mm max mate..