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fredswain wrote:I've only driven a 22 one time and it was a very poorly setup mid motor on clay. Needless to say it didn't work so well. I don't really have a good idea of how they handle. I know they are durable. What advantages do you see in the real world on the track compared to lets say a JRX-Pro SE? Is it just more forgiving?

Compared to my rc10 with the RPM worlds conversion it is just easier to drive in all aspects. I have done very little setup wise to either both where bought used and have been pretty much ran as is. The only run time I have with my JRX Pro is with far less motor and other than the motor they feel very similar on my backyard track and I am sure with better tires the Pro could be tuned in to be a decent racer but the parts availability keep me from even thinking about it. Modern tracks have jumps that are just so huge and the older cars take a lot of time to be made to work on them.

I have two of the 22 SCT's (not a shortcourse fan, but that's all that happens here) and they are solid performers everywhere. Can't overdrive them like past Losi offerings (XX) as they have so much mechanical grip, they are way more reactionary than a B4.2 which is fast in the same way the XX was- really easy to drive. They do take a skilled setup hand to work to their potential though, and there are 3-4 avenues of setup that will all work at any given time, so that confuses a lot of guys since driver A has "this" setup and driver B has "that" setup and the regular team guys use "another" setup, and the cars all behave the same.

That reminds me, I need to grab a 22 Buggy........

That proves there is no "best" setup, but a setup that suits driver's taste to be consistent

The downside is that it requires some time to find your setup, it's true, but once you get it, it's a blast!
Last but not least, I've never seen a so durable car, dont not listen guys telling it requires some aluminium hopups...

Get one!

I got one its sitting on my kitchen counter as we speak I was just wondering weather it was better than my XXXcr I have never drove one of those either. the last car I raced was my pro se at the vintage nats a few years ago. I cant seem to find a reason to replace my se but I have these two new cars and would like to race something I can get parts for.

bearrickster wrote:I got one its sitting on my kitchen counter as we speak I was just wondering weather it was better than my XXXcr I have never drove one of those either. the last car I raced was my pro se at the vintage nats a few years ago. I cant seem to find a reason to replace my se but I have these two new cars and would like to race something I can get parts for.

I will tell you compared to my XXX BK2 the 22 is worlds better. I had a push I could not cure with the XXX and the 22 is much easier to drive. I would recommend picking up a shorty battery for the 22 as it did improve the way mine drove.

22 is way more easyer and is a joy to overdrive, very forgiving, turns very very well too, even if some people say it does not turn as a B4, the good old saying...

The chassis and suspensions are extremely rigid, dont expect some chassis flex, so you need to very carefully setup your shocks, spring rates and oil damping, especially on rough and bumpy tracks.

Never tryed shortys, my track is 1/8th scale outdoor hard packed dirt, rough, bumpy, and dusty, with generally low to med grip, sometimes high grip but never for long time.
I run 300gr sticks and 275gr saddles, weight is definitely your friend in the lower/med grip days!

I must admit the Losi22 fell out of favour almost immediately over here in the UK. The mid-motor layout cars are favoured due to alot/most racing taking place on high grip astro-turf tracks, but the 22 seems so overly sensitive to the throttle & steering inputs in the MM format, this I understand has something to do with the placement of the motor relative to the rear axle centreline?

I very rarely see a TwentyTwo going well in the hands of the average club racer, but R/C racers are very fickle customers - always willing to believe the hype of the next must-have car or part so most 22s have fallen into the hands of the novice beginners who have picked them up for very little ££s to get into the hobby. That said there must be some serious pace in these cars with the right driver - just look at how well Horizon Hobbies driver Darren Bloomfield does with his 22!

However in rear motor format & on a U.S type track, i'm sure the 22 is a supreme racer.... & your 22 Rick looks really nice - I really like the neat design of much of the car especially the way that the tiny bodyshell fits so snugly around the chassis.

Not expert enough to judge motor placement, but it sure alters weight distribution being that front.

It's true, look at the hype around the new exotek steering

Steering sensitivity is tamed down by the new +4mm spindles

Darren is a very good pilot, Dustin Evans also did very well this winter in the euro off road challenge with the mid motor, there is some videos on youtube, especially one, with an epic fight between Dustin and Jorn Neumann!

But we're going a little bit off topic

I've worn out 5 racks so far-

But I just can't spend $80 on the alloy setup from ecotek

Wow, how many running time?

Mine lasted almost the year, only degraded quickly racing in mud this winter

kjrell wrote:Wow, how many running time?

Mine lasted almost the year, only degraded quickly racing in mud this winter

Probably 150-200 runs, all outdoor

That's few

The rack seems to suffer less on buggy then T or SCT

A member on RCTech sells CNC machined aluminium rack and slider (around 30$)

has any body ran the XXXcr I was more intrested in running that buggy since I have a bunch of parts and a new in the box kit.

anybody run a XXXcr buler Buler

bearrickster wrote:anybody run a XXXcr buler Buler

You better run that 22! or add it to my stable