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Re: Shock problems ????
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:53 am
by knixdad
With the shocks done per the current manual or even using 3 spacers vs. 2, the rear arms are being stopped by the dogbone hitting the arms.
Switching to the fuel tubing to get full droop to be about 2 mm between the dogbone and arm.
Re: Shock problems ????
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:49 pm
by badhoopty
i opened up my shocks and put 5/8" of fuel tubing on the shafts. its no good to build them per the manual.
also drilled the new front tower holes, so much better. i just used an old tower as a template, but i think i coulda dropped the hole a 1/16" or even 1/8" lower and it would have been just right. i still have a little bit of room left in the shock before the arm contacts the tower.
Re: Shock problems ????
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:40 am
by SteveK
SnoopMaxx wrote:RichieRich wrote:Heim joint? I just learned something new today. I just realized my front shocks were binding too and spinning the joint 180 degrees fixed it. Also, I built the rear shocks with the 3 spacers. It appears that if you don't use the limiters, the travel is stopped by the dogbone?
Yeah that's how I bent a cvd axle on my CE, cos I lost a spacer while rushing a shock rebuild between heats

I bought a CE off eBay about a month ago and it had one badly bent dogbone, and the other is probably tweaked too but I didn't look too closely. The stock shocks were built correctly, but he had installed shocks from a B4, which were presumably built without limiters (I haven't opened them up yet).
badhoopty wrote:
also drilled the new front tower holes, so much better. i just used an old tower as a template, but i think i coulda dropped the hole a 1/16" or even 1/8" lower and it would have been just right. i still have a little bit of room left in the shock before the arm contacts the tower.
What is a good distance? I took my shock tower off this weekend and will try and drill the new holes tonight.
Re: Shock problems ????
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:28 pm
by badhoopty
SteveK wrote:SnoopMaxx wrote:RichieRich wrote:Heim joint? I just learned something new today. I just realized my front shocks were binding too and spinning the joint 180 degrees fixed it. Also, I built the rear shocks with the 3 spacers. It appears that if you don't use the limiters, the travel is stopped by the dogbone?
Yeah that's how I bent a cvd axle on my CE, cos I lost a spacer while rushing a shock rebuild between heats

I bought a CE off eBay about a month ago and it had one badly bent dogbone, and the other is probably tweaked too but I didn't look too closely. The stock shocks were built correctly, but he had installed shocks from a B4, which were presumably built without limiters (I haven't opened them up yet).
badhoopty wrote:
also drilled the new front tower holes, so much better. i just used an old tower as a template, but i think i coulda dropped the hole a 1/16" or even 1/8" lower and it would have been just right. i still have a little bit of room left in the shock before the arm contacts the tower.
What is a good distance? I took my shock tower off this weekend and will try and drill the new holes tonight.
i cant remember things very well... i'll try to measure the o.g. tower lower hole.
iirc it was a tick over 1/8". just enough to be able to drill the new hole without drilling into the existing hole.
Re: Shock problems ????
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 10:19 pm
by drewbush
Its at or just over 1/8" as you said. I measured my original RC10 I bought new and a used A stamp chassis, both read just about 1/8". Depending on which hole was used, its slighlty larger than the un-used one. The gap between the holes is measuring in at a measly .028" or so. Not much material between the holes.
Re: Shock problems ????
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:53 pm
by badhoopty
drewbush wrote:Its at or just over 1/8" as you said. I measured my original RC10 I bought new and a used A stamp chassis, both read just about 1/8". Depending on which hole was used, its slighlty larger than the un-used one. The gap between the holes is measuring in at a measly .028" or so. Not much material between the holes.
i drilled my new one exactly to the old one, and at full compression i still have a tick of shock travel. if i was to do it again, id go like 3/16" below the original hole instead of mirroring the original tower.
Re: Shock problems ????
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:06 am
by SteveK
I checked the shock by hand before I took it off, the Sharpie mark is right about 1/8" below the stock hole.