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Re: brushed ESC's- new vs old old tech
Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 8:02 am
by terry.sc
GoMachV wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 1:05 pm
it makes me wonder if the new stuff is actually better than a 29 year old Novak.
And to clarify- by better I don't just mean the tuning- I mean efficiency, power handling, smoothness, etc. The whole she-bang
I do know a decent racer at the Iconic Cup which used a Tamiya Sport Tuned motor in a touring car, had his old race ESC (I think a Novak) blow up in one race, so he bought a 1060 in the on site shop to keep running. Of course his old ESC was many years old, and I don't know if fets lose performance over time, but he found he went faster with more power from the 1060 than the old race ESC.
I have seen two buggies running the same motor with similar specs, the only difference being the Hobbywing 1060 and Orca brushed ESCs, and the ORCA looked quite a bit faster, probably down to the extra tuning features in it.
Re: brushed ESC's- new vs old old tech
Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 10:02 am
by GoMachV
Great info guys, I appreciate the feedback.
Re: brushed ESC's- new vs old old tech
Posted: Tue May 06, 2025 11:31 am
by Mark Westerfield
I ran a Tekin FX in our Tamiya torque-tuned motor turf off-road class, it's an excellent esc.
The esc I like the most for running vintage brushed is the Tekin G12c III, definitely a super reliable esc even after all these years. The best part about it is the 5 amp bec, which is great for powering current digital servos. Lots of good features on that esc. solder posts, no external caps or diodes, currenty limiter...
Novak brake and bec FET's I haven't found as reliable at this age, and the esc's tend to fail.
Re: brushed ESC's- new vs old old tech
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 12:14 am
by ongbenghui
I am using the hobbywing 1080 (initial gen) at the moment. Pretty good up to 12T mod. I typically run a 19T mod for bashing.
I kind of suspect that the Orac 800 is based on the 1080 given a similar set of setting card. Maybe with a better build of ALU casing.
I had a Robitronic speedstar 2 that claim to support up to 8T mod. However, it is difficult to fit to my re-release javelin setup and unfortunately, the heatsink fell off after a few run.
Will be curious if anyone tested with the KoPropo VFS-FR, like the latest VFS-FR3. It seems to be a very adjustable ESC.
But I do missed my good old Keyence A-07RZ, small and full of punch.
Re: brushed ESC's- new vs old old tech
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 12:21 am
by ongbenghui
I thought this youtube video is an interesting test 2 years ago. See
https://youtu.be/Lo_sMLo0FIM?si=R4tT7Ouj6lvgil3K
You can turn on translation to english from the japanese host on youtube.
Pleasantly surprised that the hobbywing 1060 is slightly faster than the rest.
Re: brushed ESC's- new vs old old tech
Posted: Wed May 07, 2025 5:21 am
by juicedcoupe
ongbenghui wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 12:14 am
Will be curious if anyone tested with the KoPropo VFS-FR, like the latest VFS-FR3. It seems to be a very adjustable ESC.
I have a VFS-R and a VFS-1 Competition, but I haven't really run them.
That separate module deal is weird.
ongbenghui wrote: ↑Wed May 07, 2025 12:14 am
But I do missed my good old Keyence A-07RZ, small and full of punch.
I also have one of the tiny Keyence esc's, but I can't figure it out. It might just be broken.