That sure would of helped us answer many questions! However the cost of stamping each chassis with a different number each time was probably why it was deemed unnecessary!Roadkill wrote:
what if ae had stamped serial numbers on every chassis?
Not sure about motor, but all black, yes. I tried to reply a long time ago but this forum wasn't responding.slotcarrod wrote:Thanks BWX, can I get some info on your car?
I assume it's all black plastic?
What motor did it come with?
I will add your picture and info to the CE post later. Thanks again for the reply!
Your best bet for parts is eBay or if your lucky, your local hobby shops may have some old stock kicking around, but this is rare!Brent wrote:This is a really cool history of the r/c10. I recently bought a TQ10 and was wondering where the best place is to buy parts for these? Also , what is a good , relatively inexpensive motor/speed control combo for these? It doesnt have to break the sound barrier, but something that has some get up and go?
Very well put together! I like this post and has helped me out identifying my rc10s. Do you know if the Cadillac shop made a light gold pan chassis? Thanks!slotcarrod wrote:This is a tribute to the great line of RC10 buggies produced since 1984-2009. This is a work in progress. It will take some time and help from fellow members, as we all learn new things about the different versions. So please be patient! I will also be updating completed cars as new information comes to light.
Cars completed (for the most part)
Edinger RC10
Cadillac RC10
TQ10 Early
Graphite RC10
RC10CE 6 Gear
RC10 Team Car
RC10CE Stealth
RC10 Worlds Car
slotcarrod wrote:Edinger RC10
Part numbers used for the early RC10's
6000 basic kit, less all electrical
6010 full kit, less battery
6012 full kit, less battery, body, wing
6016 full kit, ball bearings, less battery
6020 full kit, with 6-cell battery pack
The very first production RC10 was manufactured at 1928 East Edinger Ave in Santa Ana California. Hence the name Edinger RC10. This name can be given to a select few RC10's and we will go through the differences in the later Cadillac (produced at 3585 Cadillac Ave Costa Mesa California) and earlier Edinger RC10's.
Hi do you know if the address on the green label stock motor says Edinger? Thanks.
The address on the box is one of the first tell tale signs.
The front of a Edinger box.
I have a Cadillac box with the same wording on the front, but most Cadillac boxes do not have the ORRCA National Champion on them. They have the IFMAR World and ROAR National Champion shown in the top right corner.
The ends of the early Edinger box were stamped with ink for the model types.
The ends of the Cadillac box were printed on paper and glued to the box. The early Cadillac box has a ink stamp on the printed paper as well saying "Electronic Speed Controller Not Included".
The sides of the box.
The Late Edinger Box
This box has printed labels but it has no extra ink stamp (ELECTRONIC SPEED CONTROLLER NOT INCLUDED) that the early Cadillac boxes did. Picture courtesy of RC10resto
The early documents
Some of the easy visual differences:
The early front tires are a 7 rib (The 2 center ribs are fused, the tires have been called 8 rib in the past) with Good Year on the early and no Good Year on the early to mid generation. Mid generation had Proline grooved tires part #6866. Cadillac Cars had a 4 rib. Late Edinger cars had 4 rib front tires like the Cadillac cars.
The rear tires
The colour of the chassis is of a light gold anodizing. However I do have a light gold new AB stamp chassis. The Cadillac and mid to late Edinger anodizing tends to be a darker gold.
The shock towers on the early to mid Edinger are a different type of G10 fiberglass, they are a bit thicker and are milled. The later towers look a bit different, they are stamped not milled. The stamping makes the edges look like they are sanded while the milled early Edinger towers are straight cut on the edges.
Notice the shock cap gaskets are much smaller on the early Edinger.
Edinger on the right Cadillac on the left
Early Edinger Chassis had no stamp on them
Later gold chassis had A, AB and B stamps on them. The first Edinger A stamp chassis had the A on the bottom and later was changed to the top. There are a few very rare black and non Edinger gold chassis out there with stamps on the bottom. I think the person doing the stamping that day let a few slip!
A Cadillac A stamp chassis
A Cadillac AB stamp (B for the Stealth transmission holes drilled in chassis)
The early wing buttons are diamond shaped
The early rear shock spring cups are capturing the spring
The front spring cups did not have a slot cut to slide over the shock shaft, this can be found front and rear on early Cadillac cars as well.
The battery straps are G10 fiberglass, later Edinger and Cadillac were nylon
The bell crank is the same on both sides. Notice the early type ball cups, they are totally round and do not have a hex towards the ball side.
The wiper arms are Parma type on the early cars
The Gear Covers
Early to mid Edingers had a clear gear cover, early were thin plastic (very fragile). These could be found in a thicker clear plastic in later production.
The mid to late Edinger gear covers (picture courtesy of CamplinP). The one on the left is from the same mold as the early clear but with a semitranslucent plastic. The one on the right is found on the late Edinger's, Caddilac, Graphite, early 6 gear CE and the TQ10.
Some of the less visual things are:
The shock pistons have a slot in the sides with only the center shock shaft hole. Poorly seen on the top of the piston on image 119 and the bottom of the piston on image 124.
Picture of Edinger shock pistons courtesy of RC10resto
On the Edinger, the transmission drive gear pivot, part # 6609 is attached to the plate with an "E" clip (shown on the left images 27 and 28). The Cadillac is threaded and attached with a nut. (shown on the right Fig. 27 and Fig. 28)
A mint example of an early Edinger with no Good Year on tires courtesy of Reg (Charlie don't surf).
Early front tires with no Good Year
Early rear tires with no Good Year
A nice example of an mid production Edinger courtesy of Reg.
Chrome wheels shown in picture are not original but were option parts. Notice the different tires! Proline made them, but the Proline name wasn't on the sidewall. You could also buy them separately as an option tire, Associated part #6866 Proline grooved tire. Information on mid gen tires provided by scr8p and a01butal.
The rear shock tower.
Notice how thick they look and the different milling of the fiberglass.
slotcarrod wrote:Edinger RC10
Part numbers used for the early RC10's
6000 basic kit, less all electrical
6010 full kit, less battery
6012 full kit, less battery, body, wing
6016 full kit, ball bearings, less battery
6020 full kit, with 6-cell battery pack
The very first production RC10 was manufactured at 1928 East Edinger Ave in Santa Ana California. Hence the name Edinger RC10. This name can be given to a select few RC10's and we will go through the differences in the later Cadillac (produced at 3585 Cadillac Ave Costa Mesa California) and earlier Edinger RC10's.
wow how did you get gene hustings signiture? That's cool!
The address on the box is one of the first tell tale signs.
The front of a Edinger box.
I have a Cadillac box with the same wording on the front, but most Cadillac boxes do not have the ORRCA National Champion on them. They have the IFMAR World and ROAR National Champion shown in the top right corner.
The ends of the early Edinger box were stamped with ink for the model types.
The ends of the Cadillac box were printed on paper and glued to the box. The early Cadillac box has a ink stamp on the printed paper as well saying "Electronic Speed Controller Not Included".
The sides of the box.
The Late Edinger Box
This box has printed labels but it has no extra ink stamp (ELECTRONIC SPEED CONTROLLER NOT INCLUDED) that the early Cadillac boxes did. Picture courtesy of RC10resto
The early documents
Some of the easy visual differences:
The early front tires are a 7 rib (The 2 center ribs are fused, the tires have been called 8 rib in the past) with Good Year on the early and no Good Year on the early to mid generation. Mid generation had Proline grooved tires part #6866. Cadillac Cars had a 4 rib. Late Edinger cars had 4 rib front tires like the Cadillac cars.
The rear tires
The colour of the chassis is of a light gold anodizing. However I do have a light gold new AB stamp chassis. The Cadillac and mid to late Edinger anodizing tends to be a darker gold.
The shock towers on the early to mid Edinger are a different type of G10 fiberglass, they are a bit thicker and are milled. The later towers look a bit different, they are stamped not milled. The stamping makes the edges look like they are sanded while the milled early Edinger towers are straight cut on the edges.
Notice the shock cap gaskets are much smaller on the early Edinger.
Edinger on the right Cadillac on the left
Early Edinger Chassis had no stamp on them
Later gold chassis had A, AB and B stamps on them. The first Edinger A stamp chassis had the A on the bottom and later was changed to the top. There are a few very rare black and non Edinger gold chassis out there with stamps on the bottom. I think the person doing the stamping that day let a few slip!
A Cadillac A stamp chassis
A Cadillac AB stamp (B for the Stealth transmission holes drilled in chassis)
The early wing buttons are diamond shaped
The early rear shock spring cups are capturing the spring
The front spring cups did not have a slot cut to slide over the shock shaft, this can be found front and rear on early Cadillac cars as well.
The battery straps are G10 fiberglass, later Edinger and Cadillac were nylon
The bell crank is the same on both sides. Notice the early type ball cups, they are totally round and do not have a hex towards the ball side.
The wiper arms are Parma type on the early cars
The Gear Covers
Early to mid Edingers had a clear gear cover, early were thin plastic (very fragile). These could be found in a thicker clear plastic in later production.
The mid to late Edinger gear covers (picture courtesy of CamplinP). The one on the left is from the same mold as the early clear but with a semitranslucent plastic. The one on the right is found on the late Edinger's, Caddilac, Graphite, early 6 gear CE and the TQ10.
Some of the less visual things are:
The shock pistons have a slot in the sides with only the center shock shaft hole. Poorly seen on the top of the piston on image 119 and the bottom of the piston on image 124.
Picture of Edinger shock pistons courtesy of RC10resto
On the Edinger, the transmission drive gear pivot, part # 6609 is attached to the plate with an "E" clip (shown on the left images 27 and 28). The Cadillac is threaded and attached with a nut. (shown on the right Fig. 27 and Fig. 28)
A mint example of an early Edinger with no Good Year on tires courtesy of Reg (Charlie don't surf).
Early front tires with no Good Year
Early rear tires with no Good Year
A nice example of an mid production Edinger courtesy of Reg.
Chrome wheels shown in picture are not original but were option parts. Notice the different tires! Proline made them, but the Proline name wasn't on the sidewall. You could also buy them separately as an option tire, Associated part #6866 Proline grooved tire. Information on mid gen tires provided by scr8p and a01butal.
The rear shock tower.
Notice how thick they look and the different milling of the fiberglass.
I guess I better double post the whole first pageLonestar wrote:yes - but it's important info, so better safe than sorry
albert wrote:Hi do you know if the address on the green label stock motor says Edinger? Thanks.
albert, I found your 2 comments and cropped them out.albert wrote:wow how did you get gene hustings signiture? That's cool!
