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Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:06 pm
by V12
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Could you please contact me through Classic RC museum regarding your Dash.
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Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:31 pm
by romulus22
V12 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:06 pm Romulus 22
Could you please contact me through Classic RC museum regarding your Dash.
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PM here doesn´t work at me
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Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Wed May 06, 2020 1:53 am
by FASTEDDIE
My MARKER CARS Chassis Pan car.
And Associated and RC250 club car.
I've personally owned the Marker since about 1972.
Bought it at Trost Hobby Shop in Chicago.
Bought it to Race the circuits but didn't work out as planned. Just raced some local area races.
Some years later I bought my Associated car. The Marker is just a rolling chassis now, stripped it down to a basic chassis. cause I was going to update it from scratch. Then the sport locally started to fizzle out. So started racing real cars instead and my poor Marker just sat in the closet for decades. Has a Steed Lola body which I started to strip to repaint and never finished.
My Associated car is about 95% complete running chassis. Didn't finish this one. Car engine OS MAX 21 Is brand new never fired.
Chassis never run. Approx. 50 years I've owned my Marker.

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 9:06 pm
by AscotConversion
Very nice car. Too bad 1/8 bodies aren't like that anymore, that looks wicked.

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 12:30 am
by KidAgain
Anyone ever done an electric conversion on one of these 1/8 scale cars?

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:14 am
by V12
Yes. Just finished my Delta Super-J electric runner https://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=46770

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:45 am
by Incredible_Serious
And just like that, without me trying, I've managed to build a collection (pile?) of vintage 1/8 onroad stuff.....
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- Couple of bodies, a Matich SR4 and a Mongoose Indy 500
- A lexan driver figure, that came with a bunch of Associated stuff...
- Two packs of AJ's (by Twinn-K) racing slick rear foams, with Goodyear printing
- Three pairs of mounted Serpent rear wheels and foams, identified as possibly Mk3 or early Quattro, but I'm not 100% (no hex inside fitment)

Awesome things to have sitting around.... now to work out what to do with them!!!

Alex

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:18 am
by V12
The Serpent rear wheels are MK3 and early Quattro indeed.
The hex inside was introduced later when they made their first quick release system.

I personally had a MK3 and an early Quattro back in the days. I started with an used MK3 Super Pro and changed to a Quattro one year later.
In the beginning I used exactly those wheels but also bought the quick release wheels and hubs when they were available.

The early Serpent wheels use exactly the same hole pattern for mounting to the hub as found at a certain other brand named Th...
Actually they used those wheels for their first car and kept the system when they designed their own wheels.

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:49 am
by Phin
Incredible_Serious wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:45 am And just like that, without me trying, I've managed to build a collection (pile?) of vintage 1/8 onroad stuff.....
Can confirm...this can happen. :o

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Picked up this RC500 along with a Delta Eagle (still needs cleaning) a few weeks ago. I'm very much a noob when it comes to 8th scale stuff, but it seems to me there's a lot of interesting custom work on this car. I believe the car might have started off as an early RC500, with the criss-crossed rear shocks as the upper rear arms have had the shock mount point shaved off. The car came with some spare early RC500 parts as well. It has been upgraded with the light weight ball diff, and spur gear hub though. It's also got a few Delta parts on it...tank, bumper, and wheels.

The chassis looks flimsy but both upper and lower chassis plates are 5mm thick so it's very stiff...and while the hand filed cut-outs make the car look like a bit of a hack job the chassis was likely originally machine cut. I also believe the chassis is longer than stock and it's got a custom aluminum motor plate that is shorter than stock to compensate. The wheelbase as it's built comes out to 305mm but the lot also came with a couple of longer motor plates that can stretch the wheelbase to ~316mm.
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The shorter motor plate has the name Grasby scratched into it, which I assume is the name of the original owner/builder.

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:52 am
by V12
Nice find.
It seems to me the car have been built to do some sort of rally cross style racing.
The RC500 came with a ball diff. It´s quite possible the diff was replaced with a solid rear axle later, after racing went to 4WD.

The tank was made by Delta indeed but also sold to Associated for the RC500. This was also confirmed by Gene Hustings at one of his videos.
I think this is also for the bumper.

I can´t check the wheelbase of my own RC500 as the car is deep in storage.
Maybe I´m wrong but even the wheelbase of 305 mm is quite long. This is usually found at the old pan cars where suspension cars usually use shorter wheelbase of around 295 mm.
Yes the extra pod plate is the stock version. Seems the chassis was stretched a lot but I have no idea what sould be the purpose.

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:45 pm
by Phin
V12 wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:52 am Nice find.
It seems to me the car have been built to do some sort of rally cross style racing.
The RC500 came with a ball diff. It´s quite possible the diff was replaced with a solid rear axle later, after racing went to 4WD.
I think you misunderstood...it has a ball diff not a solid axle. It is the reduced weight ball diff though which I think came later than the suspension arms.
The tank was made by Delta indeed but also sold to Associated for the RC500. This was also confirmed by Gene Hustings at one of his videos.
I think this is also for the bumper.
That's good info I didn't know about Associated using the Delta tanks. Thanks. :) The lower chassis is specifically cut around the Delta tank's shape so that it's as low as possible. The bumper came off the Delta Eagle I bought with the RC500. It's scratched up and I have one in better condition to use on the Eagle.
I can´t check the wheelbase of my own RC500 as the car is deep in storage.
Maybe I´m wrong but even the wheelbase of 305 mm is quite long. This is usually found at the old pan cars where suspension cars usually use shorter wheelbase of around 295 mm.
Yes the extra pod plate is the stock version. Seems the chassis was stretched a lot but I have no idea what sould be the purpose.
Yeah I believe 295mm should be the stock wheelbase too. The longer motor pod plate is also custom modified for this chassis. It has two extra screw holes for connecting the two aluminum upper braces...they'd be too short to reach the upper chassis otherwise.

My guess is the longer wheelbase was better for the track this car was raced at. Maybe it was raced on an oval track with a NASCAR body. It's funny you mentioned rally cross though, because I did think that a Kyosho Circuit 20 Datsun 240Z body would probably fit the car.

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:46 pm
by V12
Yes misunderstandings ...
I mean the RC500 came with a diff right in the kit. And the diff maybe was replaced later by a solid raer axle. Not at your car but for the RC500 in general, at least for the 4WD versions.
I don´t know about two versions for the ball diff but yes it´s possible.

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:00 am
by Phin
Again I'm a noob when it comes to 8th scale stuff...my info on a light weight diff from Associated comes from this 1984 article from Model Builder magazine:
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After a re-look though the diff in my RC500 isn't exactly like the one in the article, so I'm thinking now the weight reduction might have been more of Grasby's custom machine work.

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Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:09 pm
by MadZero
DennisM wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2015 9:13 am PB 7 and PB 8

As promised a while back
This must be what heaven looks like

Re: The Vintage 1/8 Onroad Thread

Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:15 pm
by romulus22
This was an “if you find it, you buy it” scenario for me. Starting to question if I’ll ever build it, still collecting stuff to fully build it if I do.
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