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Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:02 pm
by coxbros1
People and adults..not trying to beat a dead horse..but I am on alot of groups on facebook..alot of people are missing the point...AE didn't design anything..it's a copy of someone else's car..The End..so if a company copies the Hotshot that's ok?
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:30 pm
by TRX-1-3
coxbros1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:02 pm
People and adults..not trying to beat a dead horse..but I am on alot of groups on facebook..alot of people are missing the point...AE didn't design anything..it's a copy of someone else's car..The End..so if a company copies the Hotshot that's ok?
OK, I've seen some photos and they look very very similar in both design and appearance. But, what I need to know is when can we expect to see the side by side comparison photos of the overall and individual key components? Somebody has to do that.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:34 pm
by GoMachV
Mine bounces back and forth between tomorrow and Friday. So knowing ups it will be Monday
The belt is the same, which in turn means the pullies, while plastic, are the same tooth count and the location of the front gearbox has to be within 1.5mm or else that belt wouldn't work. Pretty confident, especially after hearing from people in the know, that they had the Ten4 in hand when "designing" theirs.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:05 am
by Dadio
GoMachV wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:34 pm
Mine bounces back and forth between tomorrow and Friday. So knowing ups it will be Monday
The belt is the same, which in turn means the pullies, while plastic, are the same tooth count and the location of the front gearbox has to be within 1.5mm or else that belt wouldn't work. Pretty confident, especially after hearing from people in the know, that they had the Ten4 in hand when "designing" theirs.
It's just rude that they didn't reach out to you , even an accreditation for the design would have been something .
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:39 am
by RC10th
Time to move onto the TC3-O
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:08 am
by Lowgear
coxbros1 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:02 pm
so if a company copies the Hotshot that's ok?
This made me think of Royal's
Ripper. It illustrates the tale of R/C companies knocking off other people's work being as old as time, and has never been right.
It also made me remember how Thunder Tiger has been knocking off models since at least the early '80s.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 7:15 am
by GoMachV
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:04 am
by mark
TRX-1-3 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 11:30 pm
OK, I've seen some photos and they look very very similar in both design and appearance. But, what I need to know is when can we expect to see the side by side comparison photos of the overall and individual key components? Somebody has to do that.
Mine got delivered today, I'll get some pics after work.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:16 am
by GoMachV
I'll do some pics as well, they copied parts from the original Ten4 as well as the 4.1 so items like the tensioner and knuckles and carriers won't look like 4.1 parts but next to an original you can see the heritage. The idlers are copied off the Robinson design we used on the first one as well, I haven't had a set of those in years so I'll see if I can dig up pics.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:11 am
by R6cowboy
Dadio wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 1:05 am
It's just rude that they didn't reach out to you , even an accreditation for the design would have been something .
Now that i think of it, AE giving Jeff any accreditation would be admitting they copied his design. And admitting that they copy others is likely not in their interests business wise.
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:40 am
by GoMachV
Yeah thats exactly it. I was told there are only so many ways to do it so it's going to look similar
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:56 am
by Frankentruck
It has some rare, hard to find bearings
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:00 am
by GoMachV
We used 1/4 x 3/8 x 2/16 in ours
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:01 am
by Frankentruck
That's fractionally different!
Re: The RC10 4wd (or how AE stole the Ten4 project)
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 10:39 am
by stickboy007
Gee...you'd almost think R/C companies will copy anything. Even tire treads. Oh wait...