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Re: help me out please guys 1980s rc 10

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:39 pm
by nickrc10classic
so if i have a more powerful motor should i get a more powerful battery? i run a dxt 3600mah & 3800mah.

Re: help me out please guys 1980s rc 10

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 2:53 am
by Sixtysixdeuce
if I have a more powerful motor, will my ESC over heat?
Certainly can. Remember, too, that what we're talking about above is all brushless stuff; your current set up is brushed. Some brushless ESCs can drive brushed motors, but a brushed ESC and a brushless motor does not work.

As for power levels, Godspeed touched on it, but I'll expound a little.

Lower turn = more revolutions per volt. Brushless motors are often rated in KV rather than turns, although often both are listed. So, for example, in brushless, a 17.5T 540 motor is about 2,200 KV, or 2,200 RPM per volt. A 5.5 turn will come in around 5,500-6,000 KV. But lower turn/higher KV motors also cannot take as much voltage (due to max RPM ratings), and do not generate as much torque. There's a whole lot more to it, but this should help you get started in selecting parts.

I will say that I have come to prefer KV rating to turn rating. Reason being, motors of different sizes and even manufacture may have the same turn rating, but radically different KV. Take a 12 turn motor; in 540 size, that's around 3,200 KV. But in a 280 size can, it'll work out to about 7,500 KV. Conversely, in a large 40-42mm 1/8 scale motor, 12T will only be about 1,800 KV. And two motors of the same physical size and turn rating may vary quite a bit in RPM/volt as well. As such, calculating gear ratios is easier with KV ratings.

Personally, I like going with middle of the road in most applications. Most of my 1/10 scale critters are running motors between 3,000-4,000 KV. My 1/8 scales get 1,700-2,200 KV cans. In 1/16, I use 4,000-5,000 KV motors. I find it gives one more flexibility. I can gear higher for speed runs, but geared more moderately, it's not taxing everything as hard as a lower turn motor would.

Whatever you go with, just pay attention to ratings. A lot of ESCs specify a KV or turn rating for a given scale on a given surface for a given voltage. The specs might read something like:

2S LiPo/6 cell NiMH: >8.5T on road/>10.5T off road
3S LiPo/9 cell NiMH: >12T on road/>17 turn off road

Re: help me out please guys 1980s rc 10

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:23 pm
by nickrc10classic
Awesome thank you, that make more sense, another question tho, will this axle set work on my car, http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/6219/ This is the kit I ordered

Re: help me out please guys 1980s rc 10

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:20 pm
by GodSpeed
nickrc10classic wrote:Awesome thank you, that make more sense, another question tho, will this axle set work on my car, http://www.teamassociated.com/parts/details/6219/ This is the kit I ordered
They work in P/N: 6216

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0005p?&I=ASCD6001&P=Z

Re: help me out please guys 1980s rc 10

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:07 pm
by nickrc10classic
So what axles do I need for my car, I can't find them anywhere

Re: help me out please guys 1980s rc 10

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:20 pm
by GodSpeed
nickrc10classic wrote:So what axles do I need for my car, I can't find them anywhere
You have an original RC10 Classic A stamp. Those should be the ones. Does P/N: 6216 not look familiar?

You were talking about doing an axle conversion at one point but these would be the originals.

Push the stub axles in further obviously.

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Re: help me out please guys 1980s rc 10

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:42 pm
by nickrc10classic
Yes they do look like mine, but the axles I have now, the hex area is longer and has a hole thru it for the kin pin. And I can't see if these one do have a hole for my kingpin or not , and like I said the hex arena is longer on mine