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The other day I started Modelling up the Ishipla Monster , the chassis and front suspension is nearly complete . I've found more manufacturer mistakes in this car than any before , its not uncommon to find one mistake by the manufacturer and for every time I find one I quadruple check to make sure its their mistaken measurement not mine (I'm deeply fallible) but this car ..... a lot of quadruple checks lol.

More pretty pictures and more manufacturer errors found this is the first time I'm trying trying to determine what is poor design and what is poor implementation of the design .

I really like this kind of moment when you see something and in your mind you think "But what the h*** did the designer wanted to do?"

Just finished the gearbox , Lordy There's stuff you just expect to be how things are done , like if there are 4 screws in the corners holding the gearbox together that they will be equally spaced out , no none of that here and for no reason I can see , well maybe with one of them as its also a motor plate screw hole and is related to the bearing for the lay shaft but why not make the other 3 holes accord with that one ......anyway more pretty pictures that are what you came for .

The Ishipla Monster is such an odd design, it's like it was done by multiple people that didn't speak the same language and hadn't ever met each other until they were told their sections had to connect together. Yeah I think it's really cool!

Great job with the modelling!

Frankentruck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 11:19 am The Ishipla Monster is such an odd design, it's like it was done by multiple people that didn't speak the same language and hadn't ever met each other until they were told their sections had to connect together. Yeah I think it's really cool!

Great job with the modelling!

I swear they ran out of money half way or they ran out of time , the gearbox and I rear suspension were done so they frankensteiened it to a hastily copied grasshopper front end , even the plastic in the trailing arms at the back is of a clearly much higher quality than any other plastic on the car , it's very odd but I really do believe they started making a high quality competitive car but somehow only completed the rear end before they were interrupted and dramatically reduced their aspirations.

They did manage to release it with a different name and body but I've never seen one up for sale.

GoMachV wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:32 pm They did manage to release it with a different name and body but I've never seen one up for sale.

As per the stickers sheet, there was three models : the Monster, the Super Hawk (a shop nearby had an identified body, which I sent the link to a friend, and he bought it, never saw any kit up for sale, neither advert in all the french magazine archive you can find on rc-paper.com or retromodelisme.com), and another one Appolo, which I don't even know how the body was....

silvertriple wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:45 pm

GoMachV wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:32 pm They did manage to release it with a different name and body but I've never seen one up for sale.

As per the stickers sheet, there was three models : the Monster, the Super Hawk (a shop nearby had an identified body, which I sent the link to a friend, and he bought it, never saw any kit up for sale, neither advert in all the french magazine archive you can find on rc-paper.com or retromodelisme.com), and another one Appolo, which I don't even know how the body was....

The Hawk in the picture above looks mechanically identical but who knows what the Apollo was like , maybe it was in god mode and had a better front end , usually I have vague memories of most cars but I never knew about the Monster back in the day at all let alone any other versions .

I think monster is a perfect descriptive name for it. It's such a composition of different design styles.

Frankentruck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:22 pm I think monster is a perfect descriptive name for it. It's such a composition of different design styles.

What's really weird is like Hirobo , Ishipla was known for helicopters and in the 80s they were rocket science compared to buggy s .

Dadio wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:36 pm

Frankentruck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:22 pm I think monster is a perfect descriptive name for it. It's such a composition of different design styles.

What's really weird is like Hirobo , Ishipla was known for helicopters and in the 80s they were rocket science compared to buggy s .

Well... But if you look at the first Hirobo car, it's quite impressive what it brought into the rc car world :
- first 1/10 Offroad EP 4WD
- belt driven
- quite good possibilities of adjustment for the suspensions

And it was early 1983. Most genetics of the modern 1/10 rc cars were present in this car...

silvertriple wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:42 am

Dadio wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:36 pm

Frankentruck wrote: ↑Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:22 pm I think monster is a perfect descriptive name for it. It's such a composition of different design styles.

What's really weird is like Hirobo , Ishipla was known for helicopters and in the 80s they were rocket science compared to buggy s .

Well... But if you look at the first Hirobo car, it's quite impressive what it brought into the rc car world :
- first 1/10 Offroad EP 4WD
- belt driven
- quite good possibilities of adjustment for the suspensions

And it was early 1983. Most genetics of the modern 1/10 rc cars were present in this car...

Absolutely, the Hirobo cars were well ahead , adjustable camber double wishbone suspension with C hub carriers , front kick up , belt drive , glass fibre reinforced nylon suspension components and all in 1983

Dadio wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:44 am Absolutely, the Hirobo cars were well ahead , adjustable camber double wishbone suspension with C hub carriers , front kick up , belt drive , glass fibre reinforced nylon suspension components and all in 1983

As per my understanding, it was only pure Nylon in 1983 for Hirobo. I believe the Nylon Reinforced with fibers came with the Alien...

silvertriple wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:56 am

Dadio wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:44 am Absolutely, the Hirobo cars were well ahead , adjustable camber double wishbone suspension with C hub carriers , front kick up , belt drive , glass fibre reinforced nylon suspension components and all in 1983

As per my understanding, it was only pure Nylon in 1983 for Hirobo. I believe the Nylon Reinforced with fibers came with the Alien...

Your probably right .