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Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:15 pm
by slotcarrod
fredswain wrote:Losi claims that this advantage was due to the hydradrive allowing the rear wheels to slip a bit more than the AE cars over the whoops. It was the rear end, not the front end, that was getting out of shape. I personally believe it had to do with shock pack.
Agreed! I still think the front end was darting and hooking up way too much, you can see the cars working much better in the second and third main. When did Masami crack the top plate? Was it in the final main or the second? Was it done before the race on purpose
Second Main
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Final Main
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Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:16 pm
by Mark Westerfield
The dark gold ones are the ones you get from the retail bag. The light gold ones are the ones you get in kits like the B44
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:02 am
by JK Racing
fredswain wrote:It was the rear end, not the front end, that was getting out of shape. I personally believe it had to do with shock pack.
After watching the 2 videos again, I need to agree on pack or basically a wrong rear end set up
for that section - keeping in mind the rest of the track the cars seemed fine.
Bottom line, I cannot wait to get the funds together and build one to race.
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:14 am
by fredswain
It would be cool to have a Kyle Reed Losi replica too. That would be a fun race! Watching those videos, Kyle had the better handling car. Masami was the more consistent driver though.
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:18 am
by jbmeyer13
fredswain wrote:It would be cool to have a Kyle Reed Losi replica too. That would be a fun race! Watching those videos, Kyle had the better handling car. Masami was the more consistent driver though.
Rick Vehlow was no slouch either; came within a tick of winning it all. After the third leg most people thought he had won.
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:34 am
by slotcarrod
JK Racing wrote:fredswain wrote:It was the rear end, not the front end, that was getting out of shape. I personally believe it had to do with shock pack.
After watching the 2 videos again, I need to agree on pack or basically a wrong rear end set up
for that section - keeping in mind the rest of the track the cars seemed fine.
I'm not saying the back end of the Stealth car was perfect by any means, but I'm a little more old school, where if you have a problem with one end of the car, look to the other end to fix it. I can't wait for option bulkheads to see the difference.
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:13 am
by Niki
Front bulkhead difference visualized... it's 7mm in tower end.
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:08 pm
by Niki
You might find these pictures interesting. B4.1WC and NIX91 side by side.
Front rims 1" wide on B4 and 3/4" on replica.
Rear toe-in 3deg/side on B4 and 1.5deg on replica. I don't have 3deg mounts yet.
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:12 pm
by tiger1
almost the same 99%
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:10 am
by jbmeyer13
In the horizon podcast from 2010 cliff said the '91 became the b4 so they should be really close. I'd expect slight variations on nose and arm width. The box description for the b4 references the '91 car. The b4 looks like a '91 with shorter shock towers/ shocks. It would be cool to create a hybrid; b4 parts on a dual deck cf chassis

Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:10 pm
by Showcase1186
Oh my god... It happened while I was sleeping. This is brilliant!
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:39 am
by Joost K.
Look at the wheelbase and geometry... Alomost identical. Makes you wonder though why it took so long to make a production model from the '91 car.
Personally I would love to see the B4 (.1 & .2) in a double deck carbon chassis.
Anyway, we can all build the '91 stealth car now so no complaints here...

Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:05 am
by Jirka
One more pic to this 25 vs 30 degree front kick up discussion.

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In this picture the front end seems to have at least in 30 degree or even more kickup if the top deck was already broken. From pictures if not taken exactly from correct angle it seems to be impossible to find correct kick up angle. Some kind of optical error seems to come up.
Jirka
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:17 am
by Niki
Now when Stealth replica reached place in the sun on RC10Talk.com start page I think it's perfect time to thank Jake for beeing such a great teammate in this project.
We have done a couple of smaller projects together in the past and that's why I answered yes when he asked for my help with Stealth replica build in start of this year. Instantly I knew this is going to be a huge project but somehow it was so interesting I couldn't walk away from it. We had only pictures found on the internet and a lot of rumors and beliefs what this car actually was. Based on these "facts" we started to design this replica. Jake had started the job actually long time ago and had some good parts and 2d's. Still we ended up changing everything. After first complete 3d "virtual prototype" the fine tuning phase seemed to last forever.
Finally after 10 month of work I participated in the last race of 2014 National Offroad series here in Finland with this car. It was actually finished one day before the race. Chapter 1 was completed
Thanks Jake - it has been quite a journey.
-Niki-
Re: 91 Masami Stealth replica COMPLETED!!!!!!
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:21 am
by ralphee
Appreciate what both of you are doing, your costing me a fortune lol, but its all good, looking forward to racing this car, even popped for the Racer arms.
Wanted to ask, any reason i can't fit B4 MIP pucks to this lil fella? Ill be running Re re Worlds wheels, not sure if they are compatible. Anyhoo, look forward to my chassis set!
bests......lee