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Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:20 am
by durb69
SHY wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:59 am
Patience... two years ago I found another kit on ebay/US, sent it to my friend's mother in Connecticut... and she misplaced it... This Christmas I finally got it sent to Norway!
Now! Some questions:
-Do I need a custom motor plate or will std fit?
-Will the Worlds gearbox fit?
I think you can use a standard motor plate if you cut the plate at the bend. Cut the whole bent part off of it and it would work.
If the kit you have is original and not my reproduction that it will only except the 6 gear
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:47 am
by Phin
SHY wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:54 am
Thx! So it's the 6-gear tranny or a MIP tranny? Or Factory Works?
6 gear or MIP, but not the FW. MIP will need a hole drilled in the other side of the case to flip the top shaft. Alternatively you could also reverse the rotation of a mod motor, or use a Hyperdrive belt spur gear so you don't have to modify the MIP trans (or motorplate). The pinion and spur gears will be on the left side of the car that way.
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:42 am
by SHY
Phin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:47 am
SHY wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:54 am
Thx! So it's the 6-gear tranny or a MIP tranny? Or Factory Works?
6 gear or MIP, but not the FW. MIP will need a hole drilled in the other side of the case to flip the top shaft. Alternatively you could also reverse the rotation of a mod motor, or use a Hyperdrive belt spur gear so you don't have to modify the MIP trans (or motorplate). The pinion and spur gears will be on the left side of the car that way.
Great! As to Hyperdrive belt - is this hard to find? Vintage stuff or new? What should I search for?
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:24 am
by Phin
They're vintage parts. They come up on eBay by searching for Hyperdrive, but, except for the pinion pulleys, the parts aren't cheap.
Maybe I should also mention that the belts wouldn't be a great choice if you plan on running the car.
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:44 am
by SHY
Not only will it be ran. It will be ran with brushless
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:46 pm
by Phin
Then definitely don't got for the Hyperdrive belts. It's my understanding you can reverse the rotation on brushless motors pretty easily so there's no need to modify the trans cases or motor plate.
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:49 am
by SHY
I built and raced a Tekin MID some years ago, and I had to use my Tekin RS ESC to get it reversed. None of my other ESCs could do it. But maybe most ESCs now can do as well.
Here's that car:
https://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=125433&id=22039
I also fly planes and 3D helicopters. Those use non-sensored motors, all you need to do there is swap two wires. But for cars with sensored motors it's not that easy, the ESC must support it. There's also timing on the motors, which normally only is prepared for one direction.
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:29 am
by RC10th
SHY wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:49 am
I built and raced a Tekin MID some years ago, and I had to use my Tekin RS ESC to get it reversed. None of my other ESCs could do it. But maybe most ESCs now can do as well.
Here's that car:
https://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=125433&id=22039
I also fly planes and 3D helicopters. Those use non-sensored motors, all you need to do there is swap two wires. But for cars with sensored motors it's not that easy, the ESC must support it. There's also timing on the motors, which normally only is prepared for one direction.
Has anyone tried swapping A and C and reversing the sensor cable? Mechanical timing would obviously have to be 0 unless you could go into retarded timing.
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:21 am
by SHY
RC10th wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:29 am
Has anyone tried swapping A and C and reversing the sensor cable? Mechanical timing would obviously have to be 0 unless you could go into retarded timing.
Hmmmm... would need to google that, never heard about it.
I still have the Tekin RS so I should be covered there at least.
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 9:59 am
by SHY
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:18 am
by Frankentruck
Very nice!
Have you considered doing the 6 gear mod to add outdrive bearings? Just asking since this looks old like it's going to be a racer.
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:21 am
by SHY
Frankentruck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:18 am
Very nice!
Have you considered doing the 6 gear mod to add outdrive bearings? Just asking since this looks old like it's going to be a racer.
Thx!
I've raced it. Also in the Gold pan. Never had any issues.
Never heard about that mod...
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 5:34 am
by Frankentruck
SHY wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:21 am
Frankentruck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:18 am
Very nice!
Have you considered doing the 6 gear mod to add outdrive bearings? Just asking since this looks old like it's going to be a racer.
Thx!
I've raced it. Also in the Gold pan. Never had any issues.
Never heard about that mod...
Outdrive bearing mod info is here:
https://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=43209
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:15 pm
by juicedcoupe
Re: Advanced Racing Products RC10 Mid
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 12:24 pm
by Frankentruck
I don't have any old bearings to sacrifice, so I spend way too much time making a pair of brass sleeves. I hate to destroy 2 new bearings for the inner races.
