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RC10 brushless help
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:05 am
by Ssorcam
Hello all I am new to the forums and pretty much a newbie at rc stuff. I recently purchased a Reedy Brushless SC450 BL esc with a 540R 6100kv brushless motor and a 9.6V Li-FE 40C 3400 mah battery. I put it in my RC10 goldpan CE with a stealth tranny. I am also using an old Futaba MagnuM JR 75mhz controller. When I tried it out I get alot of hesitation and stuttering on acceleration and the car doesn't move that fast. I calibrated the esc correctly and all wires are away from the battery. When I accelerate with the tires off the ground there is no problems, the tires spin so fast they donut. Is the engine battery combo to much for my old stealth tranny? Or do i need to change my gear ratio? I have a 82t spur gear and a 20t pinion on. The esc and engine get alittle warm after running it for a few minutes but not extremly hot. I dont want to cause any damage to the esc or the engine. I'm not to familiar with this stuff and can use any help. Thanks so much as I try to learn more.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:29 am
by shane
Did you check your diff and clutch?
That does sound like it might be very hot combo for the old stealth, I have heard of melting and stripping gears in it.
I was thinking of the reedy 3300kv on 3cell lipo might be harsh in my stealth 2.25.
You may have to play with the gearing, but watch your temps. very close. IMO, a temp gun is a good investment.
I hope I was somewhat helpful.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:40 am
by illshou
sounds like radio interference. Had the same problem running a traxxas brushless setup in my gold pan. Switched to another reciever and crystal and fixed the issue.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:40 am
by THEYTOOKMYTHUMB
You'll hear that it's cogging because it's sensorless(I believe), but the problem probably comes from the battery. A 9.6 40c battery should be plenty to avoid such a problem, but what brand is it? My guess is that you need either a better LiFe battery, a good lipo or a really good NiMh. Just my analysis though...
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:48 pm
by soniccj5
Try a different receiver or radio. I had a similar problem when I installed my brushless system.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:36 pm
by Toasted Coastie
I have the same set up, but the 4900kv motor. The 6100 is going to be WAY to much in that tub. Be very careful. Try a different receiver and chrystal is a good option. I use the Towere 224 2.4 for my cars. Inexpensive, and works great. No interference
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:23 pm
by DumbstixLars
soniccj5 wrote:Try a different receiver or radio. I had a similar problem when I installed my brushless system.
Same thing was happening to my XX with my MMP system and my old AM radio. Switched it over to an FM system and it runs perfect now.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 12:41 pm
by soniccj5
Toasted Coastie wrote:I use the Towere 224 2.4 for my cars. Inexpensive, and works great. No interference
I bought that same radio to fix my problem. Very happy with it.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 1:13 pm
by Toasted Coastie
soniccj5 wrote:Toasted Coastie wrote:I use the Towere 224 2.4 for my cars. Inexpensive, and works great. No interference
I bought that same radio to fix my problem. Very happy with it.
I use it on the 870c and Project X. Just an FYI, at full speed with the 4900 from a stop, the gold pan WILL wheelie. I'm using a 5400MaH 7.4v LiPo battery. Shaved the back Allen screws to a point that I had to use pliers to get them out. Crazy fast. 6100 is going to be absurd.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:39 am
by Ssorcam
Thanks for all the advice everyone, I really appreciate it. Today I bought a Airtronics 2.4ghz MX3 sport controller and I am still getting the same problem. So I am down to either a battery problem or a tranny/ gear problem. the battery I am using is made by Hobby People. Is there an easy way I can diagnose a transmision problem without having to take it apart? The car still seems to run fine when it is off the ground. Instead of spending almost $500 in the past week trying to upgrade the goldpan I could have bought a new RTR. LOL. The next step is to take it to my local Hobby People and see if they can help me out.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:13 am
by SmallScaleSmitty
Have you checked your diff and slipper at all?
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:31 am
by Toasted Coastie
SmallScaleSmitty wrote:Have you checked your diff and slipper at all?
I had the same problem with my Yokomo in the beginning, and did the same thing you are doing. Check the differential first. Make sure everything is tightened appropriately.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:04 am
by bully
If the speedy has some kind of power setting eg launch control or timing or summin turn it down to soft setting and try again, i have losi excelorin 6800 setup and didn't matter which lipos i used or gearing or radio it was just sucking to much power so everything set low and all good. I know bashers first instinct is to go for high kv motors but much better off with more mild setup especially for racing.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:51 pm
by Ssorcam
SmallScaleSmitty wrote:Have you checked your diff and slipper at all?
Yes it's nice and tight. When I hold on to one wheel and the spur the other wheel won't move so I think it's ok.
Re: RC10 brushless help
Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:54 pm
by Ssorcam
bully wrote:If the speedy has some kind of power setting eg launch control or timing or summin turn it down to soft setting and try again, i have losi excelorin 6800 setup and didn't matter which lipos i used or gearing or radio it was just sucking to much power so everything set low and all good. I know bashers first instinct is to go for high kv motors but much better off with more mild setup especially for racing.
The controller is set at a soft setting. Does anyone have any experience with "cogging" issues? I wold hate to think there is something wrong with my ESC.