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Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:56 am
by JK Racing
been quite a long time since I been on the AE wagon...but getting one of my racing buddies into vintage has boosted me back into the vintage addiction
since he is an AE guy, and I am a Losi fanboy, we have been bench racing our vintage trucks without ever hitting a track...LXT vs RC10T. then he picks up a buggy, not to be out done, I work a deal and pick up a goldie...beaten up pretty bad. (decided i will beat him with an AE buggy, then a Losi)
pic before I got it...no battery or antenna mount when I got it (LOL)
cell phone shot during tear down
So now to the fun stuff....
tore it down, tranny was FILLED with green wheel bearing grease
right rear arm mount broken
rear foam tires? front pan car tires with a rubber insert in them
bent shock shaft
parts after a cleaning, and a plan to sell off the parts i wont be using for this racer
rear bulkhead (gone already)
Wheels (gone already)
Shock Towers (not gone yet)
Shocks (not gone yet)
Arms (not gone yet)

after a dip in the peroxide bath

Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:05 am
by JK Racing
so today i began re-assembling the 6 gear tranny. after cleaning pounds of grease out of the gearbox, then the gears themselves i come to the point where the left pinion gear needs to be pressed back onto the diff half....
dont press it with too much force...
CRACK
deeply depressed....i decide to ez off the chassis, to get it ready for powder coating
dont leave the ez off on too long....
it does come off with the wire wheel on the dremel...slowly

(see the motor mount

)
so on to positive notes:
Plans for the future
alloy BB steering
atlas towers front/rear
B4 shocks front/rear
CVDs/Universals
all black plastics (yes, i will dye the tranny...maybe)
17.5 brushless system
lipo
spektrum
modern rubber
- I really want to use B4 rear wheels, but not by using different arms, if I must, I will go to B2/B3/TT Phoenix rear wheels
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:19 am
by slotcarrod
Do you need a gear? I should be able to scrounge up a nice used one if you do!
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:29 pm
by JK Racing
I snagged one off ebay already, but thank you!
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:31 pm
by RC10resto
Do you need a gear?
Better question........do you need a Stealth trans. Brushless / Lipo + 6 Gear

Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:03 pm
by adam lancia
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:41 pm
by vintage AE
looks like you got your hands full. Having said that, looks like you are going a great job on the build so far. I would go for brushless/Lipo/stealth trans with a B4 top drive assembly, works awesome.
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:27 pm
by THUNDERSTRIKE1
Scotch brite pads and soap and water get black stuff off from easy off cleaner quick and easy bout 5 minutes work.DON
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:30 pm
by vintage88
pm sent
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:56 pm
by JK Racing
17.5 and a 6 gear should be no issues...if it goes boom...back to the drawing board!
oh...a quick trip to the mother in laws work and 5 minutes in the media blaster...(not perfect, but great for a powdercoating base)

Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:01 pm
by CamplinP
PM sent.
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:45 pm
by Eau Rouge
Guys ran 11-turns and 7-cells on the 6-gear back in the day. Brushless and LiPo is the same power and less voltage as brushed/NiCd/NiMh. I don't know why everyone is so afraid of putting power to a 6-gear tranny. Build the thing right, and it won't "blow up."
There is nothing magical about brushless motors and LiPo batteries other than they nothing need a lot less maintenance and baby sitting than their counterparts did 20 years ago.
The differences that the MIP and successive Stealth gearboxes brought to the RC10 were FAR less moving parts, less rotating mass, lower center of gravity, lower polar moment of inertia and an internal differential. Obviously, less parts to break is a great benefit of those, but more capable of handling more power was not one of the selling points.
The 6-gear is a fine transmission for any contemporary power, with the exception of the most ridiculous combination, and those would take down most electric gearboxes.
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:14 pm
by JK Racing
Thanks Eau...I know we ran 13X3's and 11X2's (my favorite 2 motors for Sprint car & 2wd mod) in dirt oval all the time in our cars. The only drawback I can see for the 6 gear tranny is no slipper. With a 17.5, hopefully it wont be an issue unless I am running on a really slippery track.
Slocarrod..PM me about the gear, I bought the wrong one

I need the 6621 (right gear, large hole), I bought 6620 (left gear, small hole).
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:56 pm
by mikea96
Looking good so far. Im using MIP b3 cvds on my gold pan with the TT wheels.
Re: Goldie into runner build
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:23 am
by slotcarrod
JK Racing wrote:
Slocarrod..PM me about the gear, I bought the wrong one

I need the 6621 (right gear, large hole), I bought 6620 (left gear, small hole).
I should have a gear or the whole assembly in used condition. Pm me your address and I will get it out in the mail to you, for free.