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2011 CAR ACTION VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS • SEPT 15-18TH

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:53 pm
by Erich Reichert
2011 Radio Control Car Action Vintage Offroad Nationals

BROUGHT TO YOU BY:
RC Car Action Magazine
Hitec RCD
Tamiya USA

Vintage Team A&L
Racetech Motorsports


Also brought to you by:
Gene Husting Videos
Grand Concepts
RCTVLive
RC10talk.com
Team Associated
Team Losi
Tekin
Vintageworks
Xtreme RC Cars


September 15th, 16th, 17th & 18th, 2011

Radio Control Raceway & Hobbies
(203) 575-9757
1258 South Main Street
Waterbury, CT 06706
USA

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SCHEDULE:
Thursday- Open practice from open until close

Friday- Open practice from open until close

Saturday- Open practice followed by three rounds of IFMAR qualifying with a resort after each round.

Sunday- Open practice, Concours, Door Prizes, all Mains

Concours for Best Paint, Most Authentic, Best in Show

Classes: SUBJECT TO CHANGE
** All classes are limited to car produced 1994 and earlier.**

2wd Buggy- Brought to you by Vintage Team A&L
27 turn ROAR legal stock and 17.5 brushless motors only (under current rules).
Radio gear "electronics" are open.
Tires/wheels are open.
Li-Po batteries are allowed.


4wd Buggy- Brought to you by Hitec RCD
10.5 and 13.5 brushless motors only.
Radio gear "electronics" are open.


Stadium Truck
27 turn ROAR legal stock and 17.5 brushless motors only (under current rules).
Radio gear "electronics" are open.
Tires/wheels are open (including narrow front tires).
Li-Po batteries are allowed.

Heavy Metal-Brought to you by Tamiya USA
All 1/10 Monster Trucks allowed, 2wd of 4wd, 2ws or 4ws.
Class is split into HM1 and HM2- HM1 will be for the "bigger tired trucks" i.e. Clod Buster, etc and HM2 will be for the "racier" trucks like the Blackfoot and Kingcab, etc[/b]
27 turn ROAR legal stock and 17.5 brushless motors only (under current rules).
Radio gear "electronics" are open.
Tires/wheels are open (including narrow front tires)
Li-Po batteries are allowed.<

Tamiya Classic-Brought to you by Tamiya USA
Limited to "non-pro" and entry level cars (Tamiya Hornet, Mauri Ninja, Royal Ripper for example) and older "race" buggies (original RC10, Ultima, Scorpion, Astute, etc). Race buggies must be run in original configuration (tranny, suspension, original size tires.
All 1/10 Buggies, 2wd or 4wd, 2ws or 4ws allowed
Handout motors only
Radio gear "electronics" are open.
Tires/wheels are open (see rules above for race buggies)
7.4v Li-Po batteries are allowed.

Novice
ALL RACERS MUST BE 14 YEARS OF AGE OR UNDER
Limited to "non-pro" and entry level cars (Tamiya Hornet, Mauri Ninja, Royal Ripper for example)
All 1/10 Buggies, 2wd or 4wd, 2ws or 4ws allowed
Silver can Mabuchi/Johnson 540 motors.
Radio gear "electronics" are open.
Tires/wheels are open.
7.4v Li-Po batteries are allowed.

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Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:40 pm
by MelvinsArmy
Erich Reichert wrote:
Classic
Limited to "non-pro" and entry level cars (Tamiya Hornet, Mauri Ninja, Royal Ripper for example) and older "race" buggies (original RC10, Ultima, Scorpion, Astute, etc). Race buggies must be run in original configuration (tranny, suspension, original size tires.
All 1/10 Buggies, 2wd or 4wd, 2ws or 4ws allowed
Handout motors only
Radio gear "electronics" are open.
Tires/wheels are open (see rules above for race buggies)
7.4v Li-Po batteries are allowed.
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Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:51 pm
by tecnica2001
Awesome revision on the Classics Class, I'm sure a lot of the guys are gonna be happy with this....:D

Looking forward to it...

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:52 pm
by bearrickster
so is a all stock Jrx2 5 link a pro car?

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:51 pm
by Brandon G
I believe it would be in the 2wd class.

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:30 pm
by Zipster
So, I'm planning on coming up to run my New/Old RC10 and Hunter - assuming I ever finish gathering parts and actually get them together! - but I have a couple of quick questions.

On my Hunter, I was planning on ditching the wacky pogo sticks they called suspension and "upgrade" it to the (marginally) more functional Galaxy 4-shock system, with some generic oil shocks (I did this bitd with my first Hunter). Given that the Galaxy was no "racer" - would that be still cool to run in the Classics Class? (if it influences anything, I would also mention that I haven't driven on a track in several decades, so the car is the least of my challenges) :lol:

Any suggestions on tires that worked ok on the Classics cars (frogs, etc..) last year?

Also, just out of curiosity, not that I have one, but what is the rule on the Tamiya re-re cars like the Frog, etc... They clearly aren't vintage, but they are technologically vintage... I could see this going either way, and wanted to know if it had come up before.

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:44 am
by kaiser
the re-released classics are fine, i'd wager most of the cars racing in classics are re-re's.

from what i have read upgrading shocks is fine as well. we upgraded them back in the day so it's all good.

i may run my modded grasshopper in classics, it has the crp front end kit made for the futaba fx10.
(not that it will help at all, the rear ends on these cars kill them anyway. lol)

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:44 am
by Brandon G
Go for it as far as adding shocks goes. If it was something that was capable of being done BITD, then it should be allowable.

The re-re's are allowed, due to the simple fact that they are still the original design. The only thing different about the new frog is the dogbone outdrives and the splined/pressed in front axles.

Tires that work: J concepts rounders in front, J concepts Double Dee's in the rear, both in the soft compound. They seem to work for every 2wd vehicle.

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:40 am
by tecnica2001
Hey Erich,

Just throwing this out there, please don't crucify me for it, how about a "Demo Class" for example, this year demo class would be "Mod 2wd Buggies" the next year could be "Mod Truck" so forth and so on, just throwing that out there....what do you guys think??

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:01 am
by bearrickster
tecnica2001 wrote:Hey Erich,

Just throwing this out there, please don't crucify me for it, how about a "Demo Class" for example, this year demo class would be "Mod 2wd Buggies" the next year could be "Mod Truck" so forth and so on, just throwing that out there....what do you guys think??
I would love to run my LX-T with a 10.5 brushless it loves it.

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:56 pm
by Erich Reichert
Well, we're doing 4wd as a "mod" class. Honestly I don't see 2wd (wasn't that what we did last year... all four of us lol) or trucks going much faster. What if we did one for cars that are a little more modern... like late 90's. It could include B2's, XX's, etc.

On a similar note I was thinking what if we did a super main. We did this at the 1/18 Nationals and it's always fun. Put the top 2 from each A main in a Super main and they all run together. Yes there's faster cars but there's also bigger ones and if anything was proven last year in Heavy Metal is was how much fun that was with mixed up trucks like that.

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:07 pm
by Zipster
Brandon G wrote:Go for it as far as adding shocks goes. If it was something that was capable of being done BITD, then it should be allowable.

The re-re's are allowed, due to the simple fact that they are still the original design. The only thing different about the new frog is the dogbone outdrives and the splined/pressed in front axles.

Tires that work: J concepts rounders in front, J concepts Double Dee's in the rear, both in the soft compound. They seem to work for every 2wd vehicle.
Missed this before - thanks for the info!

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:06 am
by tecnica2001
Erich Reichert wrote:Well, we're doing 4wd as a "mod" class. Honestly I don't see 2wd (wasn't that what we did last year... all four of us lol) or trucks going much faster. What if we did one for cars that are a little more modern... like late 90's. It could include B2's, XX's, etc.

On a similar note I was thinking what if we did a super main. We did this at the 1/18 Nationals and it's always fun. Put the top 2 from each A main in a Super main and they all run together. Yes there's faster cars but there's also bigger ones and if anything was proven last year in Heavy Metal is was how much fun that was with mixed up trucks like that.
I should have specified a little better, how about having one "Demo" class with modern cars, that's what I was referring to, there are people who don't even show up to the VONATs cause they dont have a Vintage car, by having some of these guys with modern stuff show up, they might be persuaded to run a Vintage Car at next year's event.... just a thought... :mrgreen: Just keep it simple and only one class each year... :wink:

The Super Main sounds like an awesome Idea... :D

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:27 am
by Brandon G
So 4wd WILL be open motor? Only reason I ask is cause the rules at the top of the sheet still have 27T/17.5 as the motor limitation.

Re: 2011 VINTAGE OFFROAD NATIONALS OFFICIAL THREAD• SEPT 15-

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:40 am
by Erich Reichert
Oops! Well it's not open motor (unless I get back that this is what you all want instead), it will be 10.5. I think that's plenty fast for the track and anything faster and I'll have to include a free broom and dust pan with entries lol.