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Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:03 pm
by EvolutionRevolution
I'm trying to rebuild two red Kyosho shocks from an early Optima. They will be mounted to a CRP front suspension kit on a Tamiya Striker :D . However, after three tries at rebuilding them, I gave up because of two problems:

1) The o-ring seals are shot. The shocks leak terribly. :cry: Can I replace the o-rings by Tamiya o-rings, or did Kyosho use o-rings with different dimensions?
2) How far are you supposed to fill these things with oil? The first two times I tried I couldn't get the cap fully on (could not be screwed down), and the third time I had a shock that had zero rebound while the shock shaft could not slide further than halfway up the shock body... :evil:

Could someone please help and tell me how you are supposed to rebuild these things?

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:05 am
by Hcp22
You will find new O-rings at CRP (http://www.teamcrp.net/).

Follow the instructions on the picture! :D
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Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:39 am
by treehugger
i managed to snag a set of progress shocks a few weeks back and like the bleed screws.
it looks like an easy mod drill and tap :wink: ive been thinking of doing it to a pair of gold kyoshos i have .
as easy as the instructions look i still srtugle with shock rebuilds :cry:

Paul

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:18 am
by Mr. ED
Does bleeding work in combination with the air cap in the kyosho gold shocks? if you put the bleedport in the wrong place it will just bleed air ;)

Or you could take the bladder out...

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:37 am
by Hcp22
Back in the days, we drilled a tiny hole in the gold shocks top cap … that wasn’t such a god idea, when the buggy landed after a big jump four squirts came from the shocks when the air caps burst :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:19 am
by EvolutionRevolution
Thank you for the instructions! That will certainly help. :D

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:26 am
by Coelacanth
I tried rebuilding some Kyosho red shocks that were originally installed on the Marui Galaxy I restored, and I must've had bad O-rings too, as they just leaked. I also found they were picky with the amount of oil needed; a little too much and they wouldn't compress.

Now I have a full set that I'm not using.

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:30 pm
by rangerg
I know MikeDealer had a link to reproduction red shock collars, but they aren't sold anymore. Any other ideas? I have a great set of red shocks, but all have broken collars. Thanks for the help!

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:42 pm
by bdrmbully
crappy shocks!! look into investing your $ and time into a better more useable shock lol

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:13 am
by EvolutionRevolution
bdrmbully wrote:crappy shocks!! look into investing your $ and time into a better more useable shock lol
Anything will be an improvement over the Striker's front springs. They are also the only shocks I have that actually fit decently - small enough and not too long.

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:40 am
by Coelacanth
rangerg wrote:I know MikeDealer had a link to reproduction red shock collars, but they aren't sold anymore. Any other ideas? I have a great set of red shocks, but all have broken collars. Thanks for the help!
Though I agree with the others that the red shocks are pretty finicky and probably only useful protecting the car from "shelf shock"... :lol:

You do have some options.

Plastic:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/8mm-SPRINGS-COLLARS-Kyosho-Optima-Icarus-RC-CRP-1515-/230578787142?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35af911346

There's also a guy selling red alloy retaining rings similar to the above, but I can't for the life of me find one on eBay right now...??

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:36 am
by Mr. ED
clinehobbies has replacement shocks in different colors and with machined collars.
No idea how they work though.

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:46 am
by rangerg
thanks coelacanth - I'll check those out

Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:26 am
by bdrmbully
those crp collars are too small for the red shocks i got suckered into those as well. dont even think they fit the gold shocks similar to the red ones. waste of money!! wait for a pair of hot trick or similar the chinese seller is not around anymore. i got some on an ultima before the seller closed up shocp. sell you a whole ultima for 120 shipped lol...
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Re: Rebuilding and refilling red Kyosho shocks - How?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:40 am
by bdrmbully