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turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:29 pm
by lebowski770
Hello, I took a look at my turbo optima pinion surprised to find it was a pitch 32 pinion. Is this correct does turbo optima use pitch 32? I was always under the impression it used 48p?

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:51 pm
by ROH73
Techincally it's metric 0.8 module, but that's VERY close to 32 pitch and essentially the two are interchangeable.

Several 48 pitch conversions were available for the Optima line, so perhaps that's what you're thinking of.

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:09 pm
by lebowski770
Yes it must be, but was that part of the option house parts?

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:45 pm
by Jay Dub
Robinson Racing made a vast line of 48p cluster gears for the car. Kyosho later released a smaller module pitch gear for the Ultima series of cars that that could be used on the Optimas as well. Thorp also made aftermarket gears, but I don't remember anything other than 32p.-Jeff

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:37 pm
by Coelacanth
Jay Dub wrote:Robinson Racing made a vast line of 48p cluster gears for the car. Kyosho later released a smaller module pitch gear for the Ultima series of cars that that could be used on the Optimas as well. Thorp also made aftermarket gears, but I don't remember anything other than 32p.-Jeff
Were any of those aftermarket gear sets worth having? Other than giving you the ability to use modern pinion gears, what were the benefits besides overdriving/underdriving the drivetrain?

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:27 am
by Jay Dub
Mainly being able to run lower gear ratios for the brushed modified motors. Unfortunatelly, Robinson has always had quality issues, and many time the gears were so out of round that the smaller pitches would strip (because the kyosho cluster gear was so small). Also, with the 48p gears, one could get a more accurite ratio, or make finer adjustments. -Jeff

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:45 am
by Lonestar
I wouldn't mix metric with DP... yes it "works" but the mesh is still not 100% right and the wear is much, much faster...

Paul

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:20 am
by Hcp22
Lonestar wrote:I wouldn't mix metric with DP... yes it "works" but the mesh is still not 100% right and the wear is much, much faster...

Paul
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Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:08 am
by ROH73
0.8 module is 31.75 p. I've found they work just fine together if you set the mesh correctly.

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:56 am
by Lonestar
Allow me to insist ;)
Lonestar wrote: yes it "works" but the mesh is still not 100% right and the wear is much, much faster...

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:58 am
by highwayracer
Thorp did release the 48 pitch conversion...and offered an over drive kit and an under drive kit. Similar parts were also released under the trinity name.

The under drive kit allowed a better range of gearing when running a mod motor.

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:29 am
by Coelacanth
This topic brings up a question: How do you guys properly set your pinion gear mesh? If I remember correctly, either the Optima kit or some other kit I built came with a little strip of plastic that you'd mash between the 2 gears to properly adjust the mesh. That strip of plastic is now long gone, but I've used the corner of a plastic Ziplock bag to do this. What do you guys do?

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:58 am
by ROH73
Lonestar wrote:Allow me to insist ;)
You're allowed, but I'm also allowed to disagree. :wink:

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:05 am
by ROH73
Coelacanth wrote:This topic brings up a question: How do you guys properly set your pinion gear mesh?
My method is to allow for just a small amount of "rocking" movement between the pinion and spur teeth, checking it at several places along the rotation, as molded spur gears are rarely perfectly round. Some people use a strip of paper between the teeth, which would give about 0.1 mm clearance.

Re: turbo optima pinion pitch?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:19 am
by lebowski770
Coelacanth wrote:This topic brings up a question: How do you guys properly set your pinion gear mesh? If I remember correctly, either the Optima kit or some other kit I built came with a little strip of plastic that you'd mash between the 2 gears to properly adjust the mesh. That strip of plastic is now long gone, but I've used the corner of a plastic Ziplock bag to do this. What do you guys do?
For Kyosho rb5 which is pitch 48. manual says use piece of paper between pinion and spur gear while tightening/