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6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:33 pm
by longboardnj
At 1 time i had only 1 or 2 6gear rc10s.. some how i now have 8 of them..why ?? people made me offers i couldent refuse... 8) i never was a big fan of 6 gears (the press the top gear on idea always upset me).. id like to hear the + side to keeping them and the - side too.. (mostly the +) id like to keep them cause every time i sell rc10 stuff i want it back.. so 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:19 pm
by kaiser
ABSOLUTELY NUTHIN, HUH! SAY IT AGAIN, HUH!

j/k, just singing along. the 6 gear can be made to work very well, but it does take some work.
cleaning/de burring the gears is a start. get them as smooth as can be.

personally i wouldn't run anything hotter then a 13.5 in one, but back in the day they put some pretty serious power through the 6 gear.

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:22 pm
by slotcarrod
A part of RC history? Fun to run with black idler gears?

Other than that..... I got nothing! I may need to light up a dooby to quite understand your question though! HUH! :lol:

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:54 pm
by Phin
Sprint car/dirt oval bomber builds. Agi-Jammer/Hyperdrive on-road conversions.

If you're overly worried about stripping gears get yourself some steel idlers. Cyberfox has a nice set in a cheap parts lot he's selling in the B/S/T forums. Or if you've got a beat up set of outdrives chop those down into idlers.

I <3 my suped-up 6-gear. :mrgreen:

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:11 pm
by longboardnj
thanks 4 the replys... all the 6 gears im runnin have full bearings(outdrives too) and black idler gears .. heres my issue i was thinking of putting faster motors in my runners,but i keep getting mix reviews on this trans ..1 side i see people running vxls and other brushless systems .. on the other side some people say they are junk and will blow up quick. i see some perform like they have a loose ball diff (slipping) or all power allways on one wheel more then other(in dirt say the left tire allways getting the power making car vere to right under full throttle acceleration)... i wanted to see if anyone has done alot of races/runs on there 6gear with a fast motor with good reliability. ive only ran racing stock motors in mine. are these transmissios good runners or shelfers?

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:45 pm
by GoldRush
i got some cars that are 6 gear and after alot of getting close to them with the stealth drill plate i decided to leave them be. some are gonna be dirt oval cars with steel idlers and lots of attention to detail when building or servicing the trans but they worked and won championships with the 6 gear back in the day so it was obviously enough to do the job...sure the stealth came along and made life 1000 times easier but there is something to be said about beating a new b4.1 with a 6 gear gold pan buggy :twisted:

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:41 pm
by longboardnj
[quoteif you've got a beat up set of outdrives chop those down into idlers][/quote] any pics of someone doing this?
after alot of getting close to them with the stealth drill plate i decided to leave them be.
i did the same thing
they worked and won championships with the 6 gear back in the day so it was obviously enough to do the job
true this brings me to my next ? .. i know they were running 7 cell but what turn motor did they run for races.. 10turn??

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:53 pm
by Phin
longboardnj wrote:
if you've got a beat up set of outdrives chop those down into idlers]
any pics of someone doing this?
I've done it with a set of Thorp outdrives I got that were beat up.
6gear0.jpg

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:50 am
by longboardnj
good work

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:38 pm
by slotcarrod
I have one with chopped down outdrives (original 32 pitch) into idler gears, that is silky smooth and being saved for a 6 gear project! Not sure when I will get to build it though, maybe this coming winter?

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:04 pm
by longboardnj
this is the reason why i posted this... now you guys got me wanting to keep my 6 gears .. how do you do this metal gear trick?is it as easy as cut the end off ,put bearing back in then just put c clip done?

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:30 pm
by Phin
Dremel or hacksaw off as much of the outdrive cup as you can then file off the rest. The large internal retaining ring is still used to keep the bearing in the metal idler, then the e-clip is used to keep the whole thing on the shaft.

After you get your idler sorted then you can shape the case, do a bearing elimination mod, and look for a Losi, Team Pit Stop, or Jammin Jay diff tube that lets you put a bearing in the spur gear. I've got a few JJ diff tubes if you're interested. :wink:

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:25 am
by GoldRush
picked up a set of steel idlers from cyberfox...only issue is i gotta wait like 2 weeks for my package to get here :lol:

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:58 am
by tommy2c
Phin wrote:Dremel or hacksaw off as much of the outdrive cup as you can then file off the rest. The large internal retaining ring is still used to keep the bearing in the metal idler, then the e-clip is used to keep the whole thing on the shaft.

After you get your idler sorted then you can shape the case, do a bearing elimination mod, and look for a Losi, Team Pit Stop, or Jammin Jay diff tube that lets you put a bearing in the spur gear. I've got a few JJ diff tubes if you're interested. :wink:

Do you use the entire JJ rebuild kit or just the diff tube w/bearing? I have everything except the lock rings.

Re: 6 GEAR !! HUH! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR???

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:22 am
by Phin
tommy2c wrote:...

Do you use the entire JJ rebuild kit or just the diff tube w/bearing? I have everything except the lock rings.
The stock 6-gear diff rings will work on the tubes but obviously they won't lock...unless you glue them. :wink:

You could take a shot and try the d-rings from an RC10L4 P/N ASC8504. The old RC10L used the same size diff rings as the 6 gear and if Associated hasn't changed the size of the rings on the newer pan cars they could work. You'd only need one flat edge to lock the diff on the JJ tube.