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Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:37 pm
by RC10resto
Single favorite car, based on obscurity, the Leonard Woods nitro car that TRC marketed through Horizon at the time. nobody made anything like it at the time or since. It was LW letting his mind wander, and doing a bunch of engineering things that (arguably) didn't transfer well over to small cars. Was a great car (so I'm told, I never drove one) as long as you never hit or touched anything. :) I bet there weren't 100-200 of them total. It was expensive, and really, either ahead of it's time, or behind it. But it is an engineering wonder. I love to hand it to people so they can be a part of it.
Here are some pics of one example in case anybody wants to see what Bob Stormer was talking about :wink:

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:43 pm
by THEYTOOKMYTHUMB
Looks like it would be a piece of cake to work on. :shock: Very cool. 8)

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:11 pm
by a01butal
I'm guessing there's another Leonard Wood besides the one in the Nascar Hall of Fame?

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:11 pm
by Dirtdiver
1/10th scale?

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:43 pm
by RC10resto

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:09 pm
by Phin
There was an auction for what was being claimed to be a Leonard Wood designed pan car last month...but it didn't look near as sophisticated as the one in the OP. I suppose that's why it only got one bidder. :wink:

Here's a pic of Mr. Wood from the box:

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This was the car from the auction:
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Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:24 pm
by Charlie don't surf
RC10resto wrote:
Single favorite car, based on obscurity, the Leonard Woods nitro car that TRC marketed through Horizon at the time. nobody made anything like it at the time or since. It was LW letting his mind wander, and doing a bunch of engineering things that (arguably) didn't transfer well over to small cars. Was a great car (so I'm told, I never drove one) as long as you never hit or touched anything. :) I bet there weren't 100-200 of them total. It was expensive, and really, either ahead of it's time, or behind it. But it is an engineering wonder. I love to hand it to people so they can be a part of it.
Here are some pics of one example in case anybody wants to see what Bob Stormer was talking about :wink:
Hey, I was just talking about this!

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:16 pm
by Bob-Stormer
Looks like this too. :) I haven't touched it, this is how I got it.

I've often wondered, in the back of my mind, if mine was the one that was photographed for the box art. This would also have made it the TRC show car for the trade show booth. Start looking at zip tie locations, dents and reflections on the pipe, receiver pack. Also on the box picture front shock collars both face up, the left rear faces forward, there is room for the right rear to do the same and match. It's facing back like the box art. and all the zip tie 'tails' are the same length, black one much longer. Also there is some crud on the header flange inline with the header bolt and a smaller piece of crud about 1/8" further up the flange closer to the engine.

See if you can spot some of that stuff. :)

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Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:52 am
by EvolutionRevolution
RC10resto wrote:
Single favorite car, based on obscurity, the Leonard Woods nitro car that TRC marketed through Horizon at the time. nobody made anything like it at the time or since. It was LW letting his mind wander, and doing a bunch of engineering things that (arguably) didn't transfer well over to small cars. Was a great car (so I'm told, I never drove one) as long as you never hit or touched anything. :) I bet there weren't 100-200 of them total. It was expensive, and really, either ahead of it's time, or behind it. But it is an engineering wonder. I love to hand it to people so they can be a part of it.
Here are some pics of one example in case anybody wants to see what Bob Stormer was talking about :wink:
Wow, Watts bar on a RC car.

Is Leonard Wood the same person who designed the Woods Racing X-13 etc.? Or is that a different Wood(s)?

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:57 am
by GoMachV
I don't think it's worth its own thread so I'll just borrow Brian's if that's ok with him :mrgreen:

I have had a LW10 for a bit now and still haven't got around to cleaning it up. It needs very little besides some scrubbing, a bumper, and a pipe. This was identified by Leonard as a later version than the kit, as it has a 3 link rear with a watts link and graphite parts (like the one in the first post).
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I more recently bought a parts lot that came with the box and the kit in pieces not knowing what was there and what was gone. I had a little time today so I went though and cleaned it up, replaced all the hardware I could and added some cap tires. Turns out it was never used, the radio plate was never drilled for servos. Also all the parts were there besides the clutch so that's a bonus!

Here are some pics of both cars showing their unique rear suspensions.
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Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:59 am
by Charlie don't surf
Here is what I don't understand, it's a solid rear axle...with upper and lower pods that are attached to the bearing carriers? So what effect does the watts or double watts have under compression, wrap and load?

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:33 am
by Elkcycles
Excuse my chicken scratch. The blue line represents the lower limit of droop, limited by the chassis plate, and the blue x represents the panhard controlling side to side movement. Is the suspension path the red arc (with the axle moving slightly forward and the carrier sliding on the plate) or the yellow line?

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:25 am
by GoMachV
Charlie don't surf wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:59 am Here is what I don't understand, it's a solid rear axle...with upper and lower pods that are attached to the bearing carriers? So what effect does the watts or double watts have under compression, wrap and load?
On the complete chassis with the 3 link imagine a typical pod with two lower links and one upper link. The watts keeps the pod centered under all conditions.

On the kit style suspension there are 2 truck arms (trailing arms) pivoting off the jackshaft plates and the axle bearings so there is no upper control arm or link and it's controlled by the panhard bar which has a large arc to it.


Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:49 am
by GoMachV
Elkcycles wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 6:33 am Excuse my chicken scratch.....
The video probably helps more but this is what's going on. Basically a trailing arm

Re: Leonard Wood 1/10 Nitro Oval Car

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:58 am
by Charlie don't surf
Thanks for the video Jeff! Looks like it's more about body roll/chassis center than anything. Thought it might have been more like a late model dirt car with an active rear steer related to unequal links, fixed points on chassis blah blah blah... does the front end move as much as the rear end? That's Hella cool