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SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:28 am
by SteveK
Still need to build the shocks and install the electronics, and paint the body.
I might end up running this body:
Ignore the mess on the workbench, I'll tidy if up eventually lol
(I'll resize the pictures tomorrow, I can't seem to do it with the Photobucket app.
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:16 am
by JK Racing
My workbench always looks like that.
Love that body on there...been thinking about doing a Pro 2 - Lite lately myself, you beat me to it.
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:03 am
by SteveK
I'm trying to find a picture of the real truck that body is based on, I know I have one at home in iPhoto. It is an old Class 1 desert truck from the mid 1980's.
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:09 pm
by TheSpeedway
Are you sure about it being Class 1. Typically that was a Buggy class until Ivan Stewart smoked everyone in the Toyota Truck and they moved him to Class 1 out of the Truck class that he had been in.
Interested in what you find out.
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:50 pm
by SteveK
From what I can tell, that is the famous Class 1 truck, just very early on in it's life. You can see it in
this 1989 race with the big flared fenders, though they trimmed those down pretty quickly to the more streamlined look that everyone knows later on that year (probably for aerodynamics; as speeds increased, desert guys were experiencing the 'parachuting' that RC short course trucks have now). The Ford body is called the '88 California Ford, so 1988-89 sounds about right for this too.
I have seen a catalog picture of the Ford mounted on a car with buggy wheels and tires, but only the Toyota mounted on a truck conversion. I know Team Blue Groove bodies are a little smaller than the originals, but these looks like it will fit everything OK.
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:13 am
by TheSpeedway
I like it!
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:11 pm
by SnoopMaxx
That is soo cool Steve
I actually used these 1,9" Tamiya wheels & tyres on my CE a few years ago, and the tyres look exactly like the ones on Ivan Stewards Class 1

Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:43 pm
by SteveK
How did you mount the fronts? The rears are easy with the HPI hub adapters, but I can't figure out a way to get the fronts on without drilling out a set of 12mm wheels, which I am too OCD to do on my own.
I am planning to use a set of Tamiya Brat tires in the future, with Tamiya wheels on CRP adapters or just mounting them on stock wheels.
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:23 pm
by SteveK
Regarding the rear suspension:
Here is the rear suspension at full droop, hanging under it's own weight:
You can see where the dogbone rubs on the rear suspension arm:

You can see a dark spot where the dogbone touches the arm.
The screw is in the hole recommended in the manual, and these shocks are built with the two .031" spacers as called for:
These shocks are from an RC10 CE and were built with three .125" spacers inside them:

It looks like they should be fine for the outer hole in the rear arm, but for the second hole the shocks will need another .062" limiter at least.
The manual is clearly wrong when it comes to the number of spacers required inside the rear shocks, which trickled down to the packaging department because only those two thin spacers were included in the kit. If this was intentional, as some Associated reps have apparently said, then I would love to hear their reasoning behind it.
If you don't have many spacers in your spare parts boxes, this RJ Speed spacer set is probably the best option:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXWBR5&P=7
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:01 pm
by SnoopMaxx
SteveK wrote:How did you mount the fronts? The rears are easy with the HPI hub adapters, but I can't figure out a way to get the fronts on without drilling out a set of 12mm wheels, which I am too OCD to do on my own.
I am planning to use a set of Tamiya Brat tires in the future, with Tamiya wheels on CRP adapters or just mounting them on stock wheels.
Front
I used a set of OZ wheels and just made a new center section with a 8mm hole for the flanged bearings
(Photo for reference only)
And I used a 12mm hex head Toyota bolt for the rear hub

Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:46 pm
by SteveK
I can't seem to get the stock body to fit quite right. It looks like the chassis is wider than the inside of the body, and it has to be pressed down over it to sit flat. Made a bit of a hack job cutting up the front end to try and sit right, so I won't be putting any effort or using the kit decals on this one, I'll save them for the JComcepts body, or another stock body now that I have some idea of how it is supposed to go.
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:33 pm
by SnoopMaxx
SteveK wrote:I can't seem to get the stock body to fit quite right. It looks like the chassis is wider than the inside of the body, and it has to be pressed down over it to sit flat. Made a bit of a hack job cutting up the front end to try and sit right, so I won't be putting any effort or using the kit decals on this one, I'll save them for the JComcepts body, or another stock body now that I have some idea of how it is supposed to go.
I noticed the exact same thing today
I ever tried an extra body an it's the same issue

Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:57 pm
by SteveK
I've never had a Protech body before, so I don't know how it is supposed to fit.
Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:51 am
by JK Racing
my body seems to fit just fine.

Re: SteveK's Classic build.
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:22 am
by SteveK
I picked up a new Protech body on eBay ($12 w/free shipping), so I'll give that one a try. This time I'll get it cut and centered on the chassis first, then drill for the body posts and wing tubes. Mounting bodies is by far my least favorite part of this hobby.
I have a set of Team CRP truck body mounts coming tomorrow, so I'll use the kit body for an inner body to keep the chassis clean. I need to chop off the front and rear portions of the body to clear the mounts, so I'll just use Velcro or something to keep it in place.