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Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:15 pm
by MotoObscura
In the words of Colin Chapman, "Adding power makes you faster on straights, reducing weight makes you faster everywhere."

So the purpose of this build is to turn my second hand b4.2 from eBay into a killer stock racer by minimizing rotating and unsprung mass and by experimenting with a few oddball ideas I have.

Here is the starting point:
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First issue to address are those ridiculous arms. There is a set of stock, non carbon arms on the way.
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And this front end took a lot of big hits.
This buggy has had a tough life, so these first few posts will be a restoration of sorts.

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 6:42 pm
by RC104ever
Are those Traxxas wheels and tires on the back end?

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:11 pm
by MotoObscura
Why yes, yes they are. Did the b4.2 rs come with 12mm hex's in the back? If so, they're gone. All that is left are the pins to fit the traxxas wheels. Well I should say one pin. The right side wheel was totally stripped out and the pin is gone

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:15 pm
by MotoObscura
Well, I got most of that garbage scraped and ground off of the chassis. It appears to be a redneck composite of saw dust and ca...
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Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:01 pm
by Coelacanth
I'm not sure what's ridiculous about those arms...as you said, the front end took a lot of hits. The arms look to have survived the abuse. 8)

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:16 pm
by MotoObscura
The arms don't look damaged at all. Or even scratched for that matter. I wouldn't be surprised if the arms were added after the horrific crash that broke the front chassis brace screws and (possibly) broke the stock arms.

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:50 am
by Coelacanth
Maybe that's why he chose them... :P

I just wondered why you thought they were ridiculous? Obviously they're not stock, but aluminum is definitely stronger than stock. Heavier too, but I guess it depends what you're going for. Light weight vs. durability.

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:25 am
by MotoObscura
This one is gonna be light weight. Besides, I'm not a fan of aluminum arms anyway. I prefer rpm if I need a strong part. It springs back, aluminum just bends.

Anyway, a few parts came in!
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Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:23 pm
by kaiser
i've never had and issue with the carbon arms. cabon everything except the chassis.

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:58 pm
by Bottom Feeder
Jeez, that thing is rough! Kudos for rescuing it!

I read something in a bike magazine years ago that sorta fits: "It's not that you really want it, it's that you don't want the current owner to have it any more." :lol:

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:08 pm
by MotoObscura
I've heard the carbon rear arms are fine, but I've heard that the fronts are quite fragile, and I'm not the best driver in the world so I'd probably go through quite a few.

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:26 pm
by MotoObscura
The mip top shaft weighs 4 grams. For now at least.
I know I want my spur gear to be the weakest link in the drivetrain, but still, if it is this thick:
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My internal gears don't need to be this thick:
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So I threw it on the lathe...
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And here is the finished product
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It won't even register on my scale anymore :(
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Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:55 am
by Sixtysixdeuce
Hmmmm.......That's not a place I'd choose to shave .2 grams, but let us know how it works out!

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:09 am
by GoMachV
I got a stealth from eBay not long ago and after opening it i found a cut down top shaft and the diff gear is just as thin. They left the idler alone. Pretty cool old school mods. Kind of a lost art now with the uber powerful batteries and motors

Re: Lean Mean Stock Machine

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:31 am
by MotoObscura
Well I'm bringing it back!
Sixtysixdeuce wrote:Hmmmm.......That's not a place I'd choose to shave .2 grams, but let us know how it works out!
Honestly I would be very surprised if I got 2 grams from the entire gear train. I guess we will find out once I cut down the idler and differential. I'm keeping the gear diff, though it is probably quite a bit heavier than a ball diff. I'm going to replace the steel shafts inside the differential with something like carbon fiber rod. Perhaps the idler shaft too.

Anyway, what to hack up next? How about the motor plate. There is a lot of unnecessary material used behind the spur gear to prevent dirt from getting into the gears behind the cover. But I usually don't use the gear cover anyway, and that's a lot of thick aluminum way up high.
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So I cut it up.
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Here is the result, all smoothed up.
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