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kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:26 am
by LAPO
Hello everybody,
I am new here.
I am from Italy and I have +100 RC vintage electric buggy of the 80s and 90s.
In the following pictures is one of my new entries. But I do not know what it is... Can someone help me?
It is 99% complete but 1 gear is missing so if I will not understand what is, I will never be able to complete and use it...
Just for information... the motor is fitted by me.

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Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:45 am
by GoMachV
The only ultima clone I knew of was the one from Sinyih that was imported to the USA as a Dialed Racing Lightning. Unfortunately it looks quite a bit different.

The arms do look very familiar, I keep thinking I have seen a arm design like that from Ofna back in the day- not sure if HoBao or Hong Nor as both were branded Ofna here

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:20 pm
by DennisM
The gearbox is a clone with small adjustments of the nitro tracker/outrage, so it must from the same area - Younger than the Ultima - The top deck is cloned from a Kyosho onroad/pan car with the prefix FX

Edit - Prefix letters

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:03 pm
by AYKBOBCAT
Interesting. Is this a vintage buggy or a current car based on the ultima?

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:54 pm
by DennisM
LAPO wrote:Hello everybody,
I am new here.
I am from Italy and I have +100 RC vintage electric buggy of the 80s and 90s.
In the following pictures is one of my new entries. But I do not know what it is... Can someone help me?
It is 99% complete but 1 gear is missing so if I will not understand what is, I will never be able to complete and use it...
I still haven´t figured out what the make is, but I´ve got a complete set of unused arms You can have. Nice to have if it should roll of the shelf :mrgreen:
Just PM me Your address.
There´s a good chance that the gears are kyosho size, open the gearbox and take a couple of pictures.

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:17 pm
by rccars4sal
Pretty sure its a sinyih of some sort. I think thats a belt drive trans?

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:24 am
by j-sou
What manufacturer would have left the markings on the chassis plates from the raw sheet of aluminum they were cut from (bottom view)?? :?

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:13 am
by LAPO
thank you for the offer of spare parts... I am from Italy.. let me pay at least the shipping charges...

"what manufact..." . A stupid one, I agree... or a very small firm, but some other pieces seem to be industrial molds...

Here is themissing gear :(

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Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:10 am
by tomolupus
I found this at tamiyaclub, it's the same top plate on another car.
Doesn't help much but...
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Here's a link.
http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model.asp?cid=64738&sid=20877

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:15 am
by LAPO
INCREDIBLE!!

I found an italian store with some old spare stock... And it has also the "13 teeth gear"...!!!

Yes it is a Sinyih buggy with no name as far as i know...
No picture of the real buggy found on the net though...

TThank you everybody for help!

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:53 pm
by LAPO
DennisM, thank you so much...

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:57 am
by DennisM
You´re welcome - glad it arrived.

The other day I ran across a car like Yours, it was a prebuilt NIB Mercedes onroad and badged by the German company Robbe.
So take a stroll through German Ebay and look for Robbe parts.

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:50 pm
by tomolupus

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:55 am
by ant45p
I have one.

Re: kyosho ultima clone, do you know what is it?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:07 am
by TimTWR
I have the exact same car. It is branded as a Robbe 1:10 High Performance Car.

I have bought it in the Netherlands about 15 years ago at my local RC shop and have raced it at their track for about five years. Over the years I have upgraded it to be a pretty fast car, with the Corally engine being the biggest contributor to this.

These cars were pretty popular at my club at that time, due to their high strength chassis and their durability. Mine has had some pretty rough collisions with fences, tires and even lamp-posts and it has never broken down. The only weak spot I can remember are the links that hold the rear suspension arms. As I upgraded the power these would sometimes come lose upon accelerating hard from a corner.

All cars that were racing had touring car bodies. I have never actually seen one with a buggy setup. I started out with the original Opel / Vauxhall Calibra body and later replaced that with a McLaren F1 LM body that I painted orange/yellow to match the original.

They were sold as nitro versions as well. I have found one on Ebay if anybody is interested

I still have the manual and partts list in the box. I have scanned it to PDF and put it in my dropbox. Nice to have that I think? You can also see that the 13T gear you were missing was actually a 15T gear... Mine is still complete and running well, but I am very interested in learning more about that Italian shop that still has some parts left.

Could you PM me their details?

Finally, some pictures of my car:

Image20160322_221507 by Tijmen Fongers, on Flickr

Image20160322_221500 by Tijmen Fongers, on Flickr

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The original Calibra body

Image20160322_221907 by Tijmen Fongers, on Flickr

Later replaced with a McLaren body

Image20160322_221610 by Tijmen Fongers, on Flickr

Image20160322_221646 by Tijmen Fongers, on Flickr

Image20160322_221658 by Tijmen Fongers, on Flickr

Image20160322_221708 by Tijmen Fongers, on Flickr

Image20160322_221721 by Tijmen Fongers, on Flickr

Image20160322_221730 by Tijmen Fongers, on Flickr