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Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:37 pm
by DMAT
I got a set of atlas arms a while back and when paired with a stock rear hub carrier. All my UJ's come up too short. I'm not using a b4 rear hub carrier.

Is there something special I have to do with atlas arms?

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:03 pm
by THUNDERSTRIKE1
I had to shim mine from both sides the stock hubcarrier.Or i may have used 10t hubs,cant remember.I will check
pics.I sold mine .don

I used stock hub carriers and put turnbuckle inner most hole in middle row bulkhead.don

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:04 pm
by scr8p
atlas arms should be the same length as standard buggy arms. my guess would be you have too much droop. put some limiters in the shocks.

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:13 pm
by DMAT
If I shim a stock UJ to the point the rollpin hits the bearings. It barely fits.

I've already limited my shocks a good bit.

If I could reduce the space between the bearing in a B4 rear hub carrier by like 2-3mm, I could fit a b4 UJ in it.

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:19 pm
by THUNDERSTRIKE1
Its weird everyone ive built its always different how many shims are needed .Its never the same. :lol:
I always fit axles before i shim to check that all si where needs be if not enuff in outdrive i shim it.Then shim it for axle pin on other side the hub.Don

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:55 pm
by THUNDERSTRIKE1
Recheck that bearings are properly seated in hubcarriers .Ive had to ream out some older ones to seat the bearings fully.don

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:34 pm
by DMAT
If I switch to a flangeless bearing on the inside in a stock hub carrier, It should give it enough room to fit in.

For now, I'm probably ruining a b4 rear hub carrier. I dont have a 3/8 drill bit but i do have some sanding stones at 3/8. If it pushes far enough in I'll be ok.

I know I can switch to the b4 cvd with rc10/b2 axle and it would work. I just have a rc10 UJ set, 2 b2 UJ's sets, and a b4 UJ set, just trying to use them w/o spending more money.

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:41 pm
by DMAT
well, Ive got nothing. I've just decided to take the b4 hub carriers I have and carve them out. I managed to do one so far. It seems that about 1/8" allows a b4 to fit. for now im just using a that long tungsten bit from dremel. Im swirling the bit inside the hub carrier as close to perpendicular as I can. Its not going perpendicular but creating a cone effect so The the bearing slowly goes farther in the more I grind. hurray for finally using these b4 UJ's. I bought them back when I was new to the forum and generally thought switching to b4 hub carrier and a b4 cvd/uj allowed me to run 2.2's.

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 2:59 pm
by GoMachV
Do you have a pin to pin length on those arms? Something's fishy

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 3:25 pm
by scr8p
Pics would help too.

Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:58 pm
by DMAT
I put a normal rear arm next to the atlas and they were identical. they are like 2 3/16" pin to pin.

I thought it was a rear mount but those seemed to be same too.

my b4 UJ's are only 5/16" longer than the rc10/b2 UJ's I have

my b2 UJ is like 3/64 longer from the bone end to inside bearing. Did the 1/4" UJ's change length between 6 gear and stealth or would that make any difference?

I didnt have any flanged 3/8 x 3/16 bearings to try on a stock rear hub carrier but it seems like the b2 may work right over the 1/4" UJ

Here is what my UJ's look like since it seems like that is where the problem is.

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Re: Atlas Rear Arms

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:57 pm
by scr8p
i meant pics of the car.

at this point, without seeing everything you're working with, i go back to my original statement. your atlas arms are the same as stock arms, mounts are the same as stock mounts, which means that using a stock rc10 hub carrier, rc10 or b2 universals should be long enough. you need more shock limiters.