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XX-4 restoration, road to the VONATS
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:36 pm
by pumpkinfish
Ok, I wanted a 4wd for the Vonats and scored this XX-4 on the bay. Guy didn't seem to know what he had. I see there is what looks to be a Trinity Motor clamp and some sort of blue aluminum outdrives (or outrive sleeves). Is this a Worlds? What mods will I need to make it stand up to 10.5 brushless? Any spares i should buy?
Thanks!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Team-losi-xx4-xxx4-xxxt-4wd-buggy-rc10-sc10-/261541395508?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=xXXaYuyipzzF70xlWYNVaD5jU6E%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
Re: XX-4 experts, what did I buy?
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 2:20 am
by giggles
xx4 worlds with some hard to find hop ups. the blue motor clap and blue outdrives are hop ups and hard to find
Re: XX-4 experts, what did I buy?
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:46 am
by pumpkinfish
Any upgrades needed to race it? I already know I will need a TBG body

Re: XX-4 experts, what did I buy?
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:58 pm
by rccars4sal
What you got is a good deal, and the newest bestest vintage racer for vonats! I bet there will be a grip of xx4s at the nats, and so history repeats itself. I dont know of any vintage 4wd off the top of my head that will run with a xx4 given somewhat equal driver and set up skills.
In my fleet of runners, only the BJ4x4 worlds edition can run with my xx4 in terms of smooth, and rough surface handling. Im pretty sure I like the way xx4 handles jumps better than the BJ4x4 also. Granted, my yokomo 94 and the bmax4 arent runners yet... Im sure they would be close.
For racing,, extra shock towers, extra suspension arms, especially front, extra steering hubs and knuckles, extra belts, extra wheels and tires,and of course,,, the battery straps for lipo!
Re: XX-4 experts, what did I buy?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:53 pm
by pumpkinfish
I received the car in the mail today. I should have taken photos of how bad it is. the pictures it he auction didn't show the half of it. The lowlights include a broken chassis (both included are broken @ the front metal sleeve area), broken front bumper that used a furniture screw to secure it to the bulkhead, JB welded rear diff that are moulded outdrives (dif rings looked in awesome shape too but I can't get the JB Weld off), lots of dog hair wrapped around the CVDs and some tacky string wrapped around the clicker.
So does anyone have a decent chassis, front bumper and body (clear, painted I don't care). The rest I need I can find either on Losi Parts House, Oldrc.com and eBay.
It's going to make a decent restoration for the Vonats when I am complete.
Re: XX-4 experts, what did I buy?
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:26 pm
by alien3t
check rcaddiction.com they had some good xx4 parts also. (even though my favorite is oldrc.com) i grabbed a 2.19 retro trans a few months ago for 6 bucks. his prices are pretty good with most stuff even when its 2-3 times more on ebay.
Re: XX-4 experts, what did I buy?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:25 am
by Incredible_Serious
alien3t wrote:check rcaddiction.com they had some good xx4 parts also. (even though my favorite is oldrc.com) i grabbed a 2.19 retro trans a few months ago for 6 bucks. his prices are pretty good with most stuff even when its 2-3 times more on ebay.
Is it just me, or does rcaddiction.com have the most worthless site search engine ever? I tried to search for XX4, then XX-4.... nothing came up as a search result.... but looking in the Losi parts area, there's heaps of Losi XX4 parts..... that, and the numbering is all over the shop.....
Making it VERY hard to find a cheapish LOSA4208......
Alex
Re: XX-4 experts, what did I buy?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:26 pm
by pumpkinfish
There's one on eBay right now.
Re: XX-4 experts, what did I buy?
Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:27 pm
by Incredible_Serious
pumpkinfish wrote:There's one on eBay right now.
I'm guessing must not be available to people down my way, as it doesn't seem to show up in my searches...
Alex
Re: XX-4 restoration, road to the VONATS
Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2014 10:48 pm
by pumpkinfish
I think I have sourced everything I need except for the front bumper. Anyone know of one pm me.
Re: XX-4 restoration, road to the VONATS
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 3:17 am
by Brocklee
pumpkinfish wrote:I think I have sourced everything I need except for the front bumper. Anyone know of one pm me.
I'm pretty sure I've got a used front bumper, however the screw holes on top are split. I'll give it to you if you want it as long as you pay for shipping. Pm me if you want it
Re: XX-4 restoration, road to the VONATS
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:30 pm
by pumpkinfish
All my parts came in and I made some progress. The front and rear diffs are built as well as the center slipper. Hit a snag with the belts. I tracked down a new rear, but I couldn't find any front/side greens, only blues. One of the f/s greens included with the car looks ok, but the other is frayed and gummy feeling. I don't want to build the car with it only to have it break. So am I able to use the blues in place of both greens on the front and side belt or do I need the green? I researched the Tough Racing belts and it seems not many are impressed so I was avoiding them if possible. Also, is there a way to determine if the belts are ok?
I took a few pictures and will be posting them soon.
Re: XX-4 restoration, road to the VONATS
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:18 am
by pedro
Hi there
I've had good results with the tough racing belts but i'm using the small rollers that were in the original car NOT the w/edition and i think that is the difference make sure you use new pullies and i think you should be ok, i think the problems people have are having with the tough belts is they are using old pullies and no rollers and thats why the belts are skipping if you use the rollers the belts can't skip, the green belts are good but have a short belt life and from what i've learned can't reliably handle the power of todays motors. The tough belts look much more like the current touring car and 22-4 belts which are obviously more up to the job, if you are looking for the rollers i think there is a set of shafts on ebay at the moment and the ball races i believe are still easy enough to get they're the same ones that are used on the steering of the xxx 2wd cars.
Any ??? just ask.
peter
Re: XX-4 restoration, road to the VONATS
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:12 am
by Mark Westerfield
The guys at Losi have said that the shelf life of the belts are about 2 years. So even brand new in package belts are unreliable after 2 years. I would get some Tough Racing belts for all three and try to source the belt rollers from Oldrc.
Re: XX-4 restoration, road to the VONATS
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 11:36 am
by slapshot1979
Should tell the guys at Losi to make some more dam belts then
