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new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:58 pm
by XLR8
I've always been a big fan of the '69 Camaro so this got my attention. I have the Vaterra '69 Camaro but it's an AWD touring car.

Other than the lack of window trim, I think the body on this car looks great.



I don't drag race so I'm curious what you racers think. Do you believe this could be competitive right out of the box??

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:26 pm
by BattleTrak
This thing looks great.

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:03 pm
by mytimac
Pretty cool.

As a body maker now it is curious they went with what looks like at least a 3 part body. Grill and rear held on with 4 screws each. Not sure that was a great idea. On the fence with that. Think a one piece body would have been better. Doesn't look like they intend on selling pieces separate so far so any benefit of being able to replace the pieces without a whole new body is out the window. After a few crashes the screw holes will be ovals instead of circles and then there will be a big gap to catch air. Bean counters might have made them go 3 piece.

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:22 pm
by Basher67
Body should be one piece for sure. They sacrificed performance for scale looks. The issue I saw in their video, is you can see the tires rubbing the front of the rear wheel well. Tires rubbing the body can be a real bad thing at high speeds. The body definitely looks cool though.

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:10 pm
by XLR8
The Vaterra Camaro body is two piece with the back panel/underpan being a separate part. The Kyosho Chevelle is the same. If they make these bodies that roll under in the front and back one piece, wouldn't that require a more complex form that slips together so the body can release? I have a few Tamiya bodies that are one piece and you can see a mold line running across the front fenders and hood and another one over the rear quarter panel and trunklid area. These mold lines are angled along the sides which suggests that the form can slip together making it small enough for the body to release.

Basher67, I think the tires might be rubbing on the area that rolls under in the rear. This is the same for Vaterra. I really don't see a need for this underpan as it will trap air and function as a parachute. Anyway, if it rubs in front or back, a little careful trimming should take care of the rub and might even improve top end performance.

What do you drag racers think about the motor and ESC specs? Is this a race-winning setup or would you toss the electronics for something else?

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:51 pm
by THEYTOOKMYTHUMB
Well, Happy Birthday! I say go for it! :mrgreen:

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:33 pm
by XLR8
THEYTOOKMYTHUMB wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:51 pm Well, Happy Birthday! I say go for it! :mrgreen:
Well, thank you! You're too kind. :lol:

I think Losi makes this as a roller (minus body and electrics) but if the supplied motor and ESC are good, then maybe get the rtr?

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:25 pm
by THEYTOOKMYTHUMB
XLR8 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:33 pm
THEYTOOKMYTHUMB wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:51 pm Well, Happy Birthday! I say go for it! :mrgreen:
Well, thank you! You're too kind. :lol:

I think Losi makes this as a roller (minus body and electrics) but if the supplied motor and ESC are good, then maybe get the rtr?
I know that was the same brand ESC that is in that Baja in that video you posted. I am not sure what differences there are in the specs, but that other sure seemed to rip.

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:18 pm
by XLR8
Even the cars in promotional photos and video on Horizon's website show evidence of tire rub. :oops: :lol:
Losi Camaro.jpg

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:04 pm
by morrisey0
Every manufacturer is going to push the tolerance limits on these bodies because the width scale is so far off. You are going to flip and screw up the bodies so bad anyways, what is a little paint rubbing in the wheel well?

I stayed away from the RTR DR10 for multiple reasons, and one being the "Dodge" body was just out there too much. Mine is on a '67 Chevelle body that is super close to the rear tires also, and it is limiting me to how low I can run it ................. but again, these body manufacturers are limited due to the craziness of the scale.

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:46 am
by matt1ptkn
Performance wise, I have no idea. I just hope that the QC is better than what the LMT has had. :roll: Why can't Losi release a kit version??

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:00 am
by XLR8
matt1ptkn wrote: Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:46 am Performance wise, I have no idea. I just hope that the QC is better than what the LMT has had. :roll: Why can't Losi release a kit version??
I hear ya! I have a new Losi vehicle and I've had to re-assemble parts of if that weren't assembled correctly. And, the ESC has two broken mounting tabs! What the heck!!
My sympathy goes out to the little Chinese girl who likely put this RC together but someone should have checked it before it went in the box.
Overall, I'm really not a big fan of RTR. Much rather assemble the vehicle myself.

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:29 am
by XLR8
morrisey0 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:04 pm Every manufacturer is going to push the tolerance limits on these bodies because the width scale is so far off. You are going to flip and screw up the bodies so bad anyways, what is a little paint rubbing in the wheel well?

I stayed away from the RTR DR10 for multiple reasons, and one being the "Dodge" body was just out there too much. Mine is on a '67 Chevelle body that is super close to the rear tires also, and it is limiting me to how low I can run it ................. but again, these body manufacturers are limited due to the craziness of the scale.
Well, at least Losi/Horizon make no attempt to hide the tire rub issue.

There's the aesthetic side but there's the performance side as well; tire rubs will affect speed.

One could apply some aluminum tape to underside of body to address the aesthetic but perhaps the only solution to the performance side is to raise the body - which will also hurt performance. I guess it's a no-win.
Maybe someone could produce belted tires that don't grow as much? Pft, that'l never happen.

For me, watching this beautiful $100 body sliding down the tarmac on its roof would be excruciatingly painful.
Camaro body.JPG

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:09 pm
by morrisey0
Believe me, when this guy hits the curb upside down for the first time, I may cry a little. But that is just the game I guess. :wink:
dr10 body 1.jpg
Sorry you have not gotten good feedback on your original question. I know nothing about Spektrum products outside of Rx/Tx. The motor Kv is about twice that of what AE decided to go with, so with a 100a ESC, I think it is better out of the box setup than the DR10 RTR, but at about $80 increase in price.

Re: new Losi 22s '69 Camaro No Prep RTR drag car

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:53 am
by XLR8
morrisey0 wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:09 pm Believe me, when this guy hits the curb upside down for the first time, I may cry a little. But that is just the game I guess. :wink:

dr10 body 1.jpg

Sorry you have not gotten good feedback on your original question. I know nothing about Spektrum products outside of Rx/Tx. The motor Kv is about twice that of what AE decided to go with, so with a 100a ESC, I think it is better out of the box setup than the DR10 RTR, but at about $80 increase in price.
Wow, the Chevelle looks great! I agree that it would be (or will be :( ) awful to get it upside down at some point but at least that body is reasonably priced. A hundred bucks or more for a 1/10 scale lexan car body is not reasonable IMHO.

Yeah, I also know nothing about Spektrum. I really should read the no-prep rules as there probably are limits on motor specs.
These guys hit 60mph on 3s during a speed run. Very impressive!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2GV2M2BFRM&t=4s