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Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:44 am
by Chewbacca
As the title states, I am searching for good usable shacks, preferably with a double o-ring seal. I believe the discontinued Trackstar shocks I got from Hobby King a few years back actually have 2 o-rings in their bottom loades setup, but will have to check.

I have been looking at Banggodd and Aliexpress, but as usual their descriptions lack any detail.

The Yeah racing shocks look decent, but only use one o-ring.

I am trying to stay cheap here not the best of the best.

I am greatful for any suggestions.

Thanks, Tony

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:26 am
by GoMachV
Hot racing makes a really decent shock but sometimes they are hard to find. The regular hot racing shock is not nearly as good and seems to be more readily available. The ones I use come with both a diaphragm and a oring, and the cap has a bleeder so you can set them up either way. I run with the diaphragm and take out the bleeder screw.

https://hot-racing.com/?partnumber=TD90X06;c=603

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:51 am
by Dadio
Just tried Fastrax shocks and they are really nice threaded body shocks with double O rings and double PTFE guides , excellent value .

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:38 pm
by jwscab
Pretty much you are looking at around 20 bucks a pair for a decent shock these days.

The two that come to mind immediately are two Traxxas shocks. The plastic ultra shocks should be readily available.

The second choice would be a better choice and those would be the old school long and xlong shocks from Traxxas. Practically identical to the old associated shocks. Need to use big bore or Traxxas/losi springs.

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:17 pm
by juicedcoupe
The Traxxas Ultra shocks aren't bad. They do require the slightly larger Traxxas or Losi springs as well but those are easy enough.

They are available in several lengths as well. However, even the long (shortest common length) is about the length of a truck front, maybe a little shorter than an AE 1.02.

If they have a weak point, it's the shafts. They are $3 a set, so you get what you pay for. They are common 3mm shafts, so you can swap them out easily enough.

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:24 pm
by juicedcoupe
If you are after truck length big bores, consider the AE Rival MT10 bodies. Get the rebuild kit and use whatever shafts, springs, and cups you want.

If you get a complete set, they come with extra long shafts and external limiters. The springs are long as well. So unless that is what you want, it's probably better to piece them together.

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 5:00 pm
by Dadio
Still saying good cheap shocks equivalent to Track star ( I have some ) then the Fastrax are good .

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:41 pm
by juicedcoupe
juicedcoupe wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:24 pm If you are after truck length big bores, consider the AE Rival MT10 bodies. Get the rebuild kit and use whatever shafts, springs, and cups you want.

If you get a complete set, they come with extra long shafts and external limiters. The springs are long as well. So unless that is what you want, it's probably better to piece them together.
Here are a couple sets of these that I've built. Depending on the exact parts you choose, these can be built for ~$40 a set.

RC10 with the RPM Worlds style front. This set was probably closer to $50, as they used higher quality shafts, springs, and cups.
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This set is on a ECX Torment. They were under $40, with Traxxas shafts and the rest are MT10 parts.
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Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:12 pm
by dldiaz
This seems like a good place to ask about shock lengths. :mrgreen:

I am trying to rebuild a couple Team/Worlds-type buggies, hopefully for VONats this year.
- I am not an expert on the very specific racer-level specs of the RC10.

I do have quite a few already-built RC10 models with various purposes (bashing, street racing, box-art)...
So I went around and measured a few of the front shocks.

Among all my Team/Worlds-type models - i.e. all with seemingly similar front shock towers and wide arms - there seems to be two different lengths:
- A few of them are right at 69mm, center-eyelet to eyelet.
- A few others are right at 74mm for that measurement.

All of these are built with original AE parts, not a bunch of custom stuff, and not WOIN conversions.
And all appear to have the same 'droop' of the front arms.


I am sure I am missing something about the way these front ends are built?
- Does anyone have any insight into what correct front shock-length should be?
- And how different OEM parts might be responsible for the differences I am measuring?


FYI - I want to know this measurement so that I can potentially step-up to AE big-bore shocks (or potentially something aftermarket as discussed above in this thread).

Thanks!

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:29 pm
by juicedcoupe
The Worlds car had a shorter tower and used internal limiters in the front shocks, making them shorter.

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:45 pm
by dldiaz
Ahh okay, I see now in the manuals that the Worlds Car recommends a .062 limiter, but Team Car does not.
And I did not realize the Worlds tower was shorter.

Thank You very much!!
That gets me a bit closer to understanding.


So then it is a matter of finding the right combo of body/shaft to fit a non-stock shock.

Does anyone have specific body/shaft length recommendations for AE 12mm Big Bore shocks to work with a Team Car front tower?

Re: Cheap but good dual O-Ring shocks

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 10:21 pm
by mikea96
All the wide arm cars like the world's, team car, graphite and championship edition used the .71 front shocks and the narrow arm cars had .56.