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What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:11 am
by Chewbacca
Hi everyone.
I got this brand new chassis in a lot. Now, it was sold as a Graupner Victoria Pro. I can’t find any pictures of a Pro version, the „normal“ Victra is clearly based off of the nitro Hawk or nitro buggy.
Is this an old nitro Rustler chassis?
Thanks for any input.
Tony
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:52 am
by Elkcycles
Early Nitro Rustlers had a brown anodized chassis.
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 3:08 am
by Chewbacca
I found out as much, but was this shape ever a Traxxas chassis or did Graupner actually make their own for a change?
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:42 am
by romulus22
To my knowledge rustlers always had the same shape. Just changed color. There’s quite a few differences between my rustler and your chassis. But has many same looking mounting hole locations.
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:00 am
by Dangeruss
Very cool chassis... but It's not a Nitro Rustler... or Traxxas at all.
Nitro Rustler chassis' were full length aluminum with three holes behind the front bulkhead mount, the outer two for the bellcrank steering.
Nitro Sport chassis' were partial length aluminum with one hole behind the front bulkhead mount and direct steering.
Your full-length aluminum chassis has one hole behind the front bulkhead mount for direct steering, but lacks the cutout for the transmission and six of the rear mounting holes are in different places, two of which are different sizes. Most definitely Blue Bird and thus a Graupner chassis given your locale but for what model, I couldn't say, except to look for releases sometime between 1997-2015... though I couldn't find anything even close to resembling a Graupner model history.
Here's a quick and dirty overlay... Converted your picture and two Traxxas pics to display the edges only, deleted the excess imagery and keystoned the Traxxas chassis' to match yours... not pretty, but illustrates the differences:
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:16 am
by GoMachV
The Victra Pro was another Graupner sold traxxas rig made from various parts from various cars. Here is the pdf exploded view, and a screenshot of the product info.
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:38 am
by Dangeruss
GoMachV wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:16 am
The Victra Pro was another Graupner sold traxxas rig made from various parts from various cars
More a Graupner sold Blue Bird rig, since Traxxas, Graupner, et, al. were just importers for Blue Bird but, tomayto/tomahto... Impressive though, Victra Pro buggy, chassis part# 5035.60... 30 Euros at WMS-RC.com:
https://www.wms-rc.com/en/graupner-chassis-5035-60.html
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:16 am
by Chewbacca
GoMachV wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:16 am
The Victra Pro was another Graupner sold traxxas rig made from various parts from various cars. Here is the pdf exploded view, and a screenshot of the product info.
WOW!
where did you get that file?
I had a file in the same dasign for the Graupner Radicator 2, I believe I have recently lost it on a USB drive.
I just downloaded the Victra file. Do you also have the exploded view of the Radicator 2?
Thanx in advance,
Tony
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 10:26 am
by GoMachV
Hey,
I spent a lot of time with the wayback machine haha. the doc files should even link to the wayback archives page but there isn't a lot to be seen. Here is my google drive for the graupner stuff, the radicator 2 is in there
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16gCzthonUh4N45ZwKeQ_l7xzP5noUrA8
---Jeff
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:43 pm
by Chewbacca
Dangeruss wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:00 am
Very cool chassis... but It's not a Nitro Rustler... or Traxxas at all.
Nitro Rustler chassis' were full length aluminum with three holes behind the front bulkhead mount, the outer two for the bellcrank steering.
Nitro Sport chassis' were partial length aluminum with one hole behind the front bulkhead mount and direct steering.
Your full-length aluminum chassis has one hole behind the front bulkhead mount for direct steering, but lacks the cutout for the transmission and six of the rear mounting holes are in different places, two of which are different sizes. Most definitely Blue Bird and thus a Graupner chassis given your locale but for what model, I couldn't say, except to look for releases sometime between 1997-2015... though I couldn't find anything even close to resembling a Graupner model history.
Here's a quick and dirty overlay... Converted your picture and two Traxxas pics to display the edges only, deleted the excess imagery and keystoned the Traxxas chassis' to match yours... not pretty, but illustrates the differences:
Three Chassis Overlay.jpg
WOW! You've got a sense for details! You got the comparison so close, the only part you're off are the rear arm mounting holes. The holes for the rear bulkhead and the front of gearbox mounting actually line up, the arm monts are odd when laid on top of each other. I habe both chassis here, but couldn't figure it quite out.
Now lookinh at more of the Traxxas Legacy models, I believe this is a "plate chassis version" derived from the Nitro Hawk / Nitro Buggy. Also the pictures in the old Graupner instructions are often just schematic. If you look at the picture of the front bulkhead and the font of the chassis in the Victra instructions, you'd think that the TRX3 /TCP front was used here. That is not the case, since the part numbers for those (used in the Radicator 2) are different. The next indicator is the gearbox, that is a hybrid of the SRT and the Nitro Buggy gearbox. - sort of
Anyway, intersting stuff, thanks guys for your help!
Re: What Traxxas nitro chassis is this
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 5:06 am
by Chewbacca
Damn,
now I want to get my hands on the Transmission case of this vehicle, or at least of the Nitro Buggy or Nitro Hawk.
Those transmissions use the 48dp Bandit / Rustler internals -> more options.
Projects, projects......
