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Hello from Illinois
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 9:49 pm
by CATDaddy
I haven't done any radio control racing since the late 80s. My first car was a Futaba FX10, had an RC10, ninja, then my last car was an RC10 graphite. Built the Graphite put in electronics, and motor. Then I don't remember what happened but it has sat for 35+ years. I can remember the unobanium, which, for me, was the Schumacher Cat. My current goal is to unload the Graphite and purchase a Schumacher Procat. Trying to get everything straight since so much has changed. Looking to absorb as much information as I can from the community here. Thank you and have some patience with this older racer.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:05 pm
by Frankentruck
Welcome! I too would like a CAT. The ProCAT also looks cool. You don't think your Graphite would be nice sitting next to a CAT...? Any pictures of the Graphite?
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:53 pm
by coxbros1
Trust me that graphite is a classic as it gets!
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:42 am
by 1911Colt
Welcome!
The CAT was unobtainium for me, too. I was very lucky in that I got back into RC while the Masami re-re was available.
The ProCAT is arguably the best buy in the re-re market. You won't be disappointed. At 344 (~320 with coupon) it is cheaper than many 2WD buggies (lookin' at you, Associated). Schumacher re-re kits are good quality and very close to the original designs. The only issue I have had with any of the Schuey re-res is the notch in the shock pistons is cut pretty randomly (sometimes not cut at all
). Use the correct screwdriver. The screws are ok, but using a Phillips head screwdriver greatly increases the chance of stripping one.
You only need the Pro transmission if you run insane power and/or run on a high grip modern track. I have a 10.5 in mine with the standard transmission, but I only run on my home track.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:48 am
by Frankentruck
Do Schumacher builds like the ProCAT typically have some extra parts left over like other brands do? Springs, screws, etc. Sorry to take this welcome thread on a tangent.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:56 am
by Brendan2904
Welcome.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:51 am
by 1911Colt
Frankentruck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:48 am
Do Schumacher builds like the ProCAT typically have some extra parts left over like other brands do? Springs, screws, etc. Sorry to take this welcome thread on a tangent.
I always have extra screws and e-clips. One of my 7 re-res had an extra diff ball. The re-res have battery mounting options, so there are some unused parts depending on the style of battery you choose. That's all I can think of except the tools.
The Cougar 2 Works has extra shock parts. It is sort of a Tamiya thing, where they just give you the parts tree even though you don't need all of it. You can choose between the original "vari-pistons" or any of several fixed pistons, and there are a few things that don't fit the car but are on the tree.
My LD3 came with lots of extra shock pistons and spacers as tuning options.
The original Cougar 2 "Racing" back in the early 90s came with a full range of shock springs.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:46 pm
by CATDaddy
Frankentruck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:05 pm
Welcome! I too would like a CAT. The ProCAT also looks cool. You don't think your Graphite would be nice sitting next to a CAT...? Any pictures of the Graphite?
will gladly post some pictures of it as soon as I figure out how. I assumed the pictures are to large to post directly. Any tips on posting them would be appreciated.
I also found a JG MFG monster truck conversation kit in the Graphite box for the rc10.
It has a Tekin Pro Tempfet ESC probably the 600 model. I sent a email to Tekin to try and figure out the model and he was thinking 600. Motor is a reedy modified green. I haven't taken it out to get a better look. Radio system is a Futaba magnum junior 2 servos and receiver. All this stuff is completely unused for something like 35 years. It's dusty but still like new. Box is rough. Futaba box is fine. I have the manuals for the rc10, radio, and ESC.
Wheels and tires are missing but I know I have seen them but we moved a few years ago and I think they are in a box somewhere. I don't have a clue where the body is, 35 years I hard on the memory.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:06 pm
by CATDaddy
1911Colt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:42 am
Welcome!
The CAT was unobtainium for me, too. I was very lucky in that I got back into RC while the Masami re-re was available.
The ProCAT is arguably the best buy in the re-re market. You won't be disappointed. At 344 (~320 with coupon) it is cheaper than many 2WD buggies (lookin' at you, Associated). Schumacher re-re kits are good quality and very close to the original designs. The only issue I have had with any of the Schuey re-res is the notch in the shock pistons is cut pretty randomly (sometimes not cut at all
). Use the correct screwdriver. The screws are ok, but using a Phillips head screwdriver greatly increases the chance of stripping one.
You only need the Pro transmission if you run insane power and/or run on a high grip modern track. I have a 10.5 in mine with the standard transmission, but I only run on my home track.
I contacted Schumacher and ask about the motor because just about everywhere says 17.5 limit with kit transmission. But on the Schumacher site it says "Motor (Max 13.5T limit with kit transmission, 6.5T with optional pro transmission" there numbers refer to a brushless motor. Being a old newbie I didn't realize that the turns on a brushed and brushless aren't the same. Brushless wasn't a thing back then as far as I remember.
Yeah the price on a Procat was what caught my eye. The L1R is almost 200 more. The cougar classic isn't a bad price either for a 2wd. It pains me that I missed the Cat XLS and Top Cat. The cost of those now are ridiculous.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 9:27 pm
by Frankentruck
CATDaddy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:46 pm
Frankentruck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:05 pm
Welcome! I too would like a CAT. The ProCAT also looks cool. You don't think your Graphite would be nice sitting next to a CAT...? Any pictures of the Graphite?
will gladly post some pictures of it as soon as I figure out how. I assumed the pictures are to large to post directly. Any tips on posting them would be appreciated.
This is where you go to post pictures:
If the pictures are too large (3MB limit) cropping them is one way to resize them, if you can't directly resize them.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:36 am
by BattleTrak
Welcome to the Illinois club! I am in Decatur.. Schumachers were definitely not common around here back in the day. I just want to know what happened to the Ninja??
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 6:42 am
by CATDaddy
BattleTrak wrote: ↑Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:36 am
Welcome to the Illinois club! I am in Decatur.. Schumachers were definitely not common around here back in the day. I just want to know what happened to the Ninja??
I believe I sold it to pay for the Graphite. Back in the day we a a hobby store in Pana it had a carpeted banked oval on the 2nd floor. I need to make a trip to the rc shack in Decatur, I'm about 35 miles south. I understand Springfield had a nice store a few years ago but it closed.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:54 pm
by CATDaddy
CATDaddy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:46 pm
Frankentruck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 10:05 pm
Welcome! I too would like a CAT. The ProCAT also looks cool. You don't think your Graphite would be nice sitting next to a CAT...? Any pictures of the Graphite?
will gladly post some pictures of it as soon as I figure out how. I assumed the pictures are to large to post directly. Any tips on posting them would be appreciated.
I also found a JG MFG monster truck conversation kit in the Graphite box for the rc10.
It has a Tekin Pro Tempfet ESC probably the 600 model. I sent a email to Tekin to try and figure out the model and he was thinking 600. Motor is a reedy modified green. I haven't taken it out to get a better look. Radio system is a Futaba magnum junior 2 servos and receiver. All this stuff is completely unused for something like 35 years. It's dusty but still like new. Box is rough. Futaba box is fine. I have the manuals for the rc10, radio, and ESC.
Wheels and tires are missing but I know I have seen them but we moved a few years ago and I think they are in a box somewhere. I don't have a clue where the body is, 35 years I hard on the memory.
Re: Hello from Illinois
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:43 am
by Frankentruck
That's a really nice Graphite. Personally I wouldn't let that one go.