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Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:47 pm
by shodog
Check this out,I thought it was pretty cool

Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 6:56 pm
by scr8p
that's pretty cool, but i don't like how he has the upper shocks mounted. tops and bottoms of shocks mounted opposite of each other is
usually only good for one thing.
finding the weakest point.

Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:58 pm
by shodog
scr8p wrote:tops and bottoms of shocks mounted opposite of each other is
usually only good for one thing.
finding the weakest point.

I'm not following you, explain yourself young man
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:14 pm
by terry.sc
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 8:49 pm
by aeiou
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:02 pm
by scr8p
shodog wrote:scr8p wrote:tops and bottoms of shocks mounted opposite of each other is
usually only good for one thing.
finding the weakest point.

I'm not following you, explain yourself young man
alright, lets see...................... do you notice in the pic that the top of the shocks mount from the outside in, and the bottoms mount front to back? how well to you think that shock is gonna pivot when the suspension compresses? the shock is not allowed to rotate freely on the shock bushing on the top. it's more or less rocking back and forth against the nut that's holding it on. which is the best way to destroy a shock. especially if it binds before the suspension is fully compressed.
i suck at explainig this sort of stuff. to me, it's just common sense that the top and bottom of the shock should mount in the same direction. front to back. unless we're talking about the a&l trailing arm setup.
but, hey.............. who am i to say it's wrong. he's the chassis designer/builder.

Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:34 pm
by badhoopty
i'm following ya scr8p. if one of the mounting points doesnt follow the same arc as the rest it will bind, unless there is enough slop to allow for it... right?
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:35 pm
by scr8p
badhoopty wrote:i'm following ya scr8p. if one of the mounting points doesnt follow the same arc as the rest it will bind, unless there is enough slop to allow for it... right?
ya, more or less.
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:38 pm
by scr8p
that's another reason why instead of a normal shock bushing, it has fuel line in it's place.
and to me, that's like putting a band-aid on the problem.
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:06 pm
by badhoopty
icky shock mounting or not, its pretty cool that its made available to the masses.
you guys remember the old days when it was just hua, and he was in
waaay over his head?
rc4wd sure has came a very long way.
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:29 pm
by klavy69
Thats pretty cool...even if its flawed. There's one thing that I have really gained with my short membership here besides the knowledge is all the links you guys come up with. Gonna have to get another pc just to put the rest of my R/C links on
Thanx
Todd
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:09 pm
by badhoopty
now lets not start saying its flawed...
somebody might get buyers remorse.
that thing should be an absolute hoot in the sand.
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:02 am
by shodog
badhoopty wrote:
somebody might get buyers remorse.
Who would that be?

Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:49 am
by MelvinsArmy
scr8p wrote:that's another reason why instead of a normal shock bushing, it has fuel line in it's place.
and to me, that's like putting a band-aid on the problem.
Boyer mounts all his shocks on the chassis with fuel line. Crawlers, scale MT's, now these things. It actually makes for a really good bushing. I don't know if I'd want it on a high-speed machine that's going to take a lot of beating, but for crawlers and MT's, it works great and allows much more movement of the shock. I do agree about the pivot, there's no reason why the mount couldn't have been made the normal way.
Re: Boyer sand rail
Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:20 pm
by bearrickster
I like the seats where do you get them? what are they out of?