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HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:27 pm
by FasterLouder
I just bought a new in packet HydraDrive.I'm wondering what I should use for fluid-Will silicone shock fluid work?
Is so,what viscocity should I use? I have a bottle of every weight fluid Losi offer.
I'm thinking maybe I should leave it new in packet...I don't think I can resist building it,though...They're just too geeky cool! :P

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:45 pm
by a01butal
Wasn't there a bottle of Hydra-Drive fluid in the kit? It's not silicone shock fluid. Somewhere there is a post about this subject but I don't remember what it was titled, maybe just do a search on "Hydra" or something like that. Number 1 thing you should know is that if it's for a shelfer maybe just don't fill it. They have a history of leaking so for the shelfer that's an option. If you can't find any other solution that's workable I have 3 bottles nip of the Hydra-Drive Solution you could pm me me but maybe something else is usable.

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:50 pm
by aconsola
somebody mentioned silicone diff fluid in a thread way back, so I used some 10000 kyosho diff fluid I happened to have. It feels ok, but I haven't gotten to run it yet. not that I've ever run one in the past with proper losi fluid to compare.

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:51 pm
by scr8p
if your not gonna use the car, leave it dry. just rub a little oil on the o-rings when you put it together so they don't dry out.

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:46 pm
by markt311
Losi made 2 or 3 grades of fluid from light to heavy, but they never specified what it was exactly. Like scr8p said leave it dry if it's for a shelfer just put some shock oil on the seals. Most tracks these days you wouldn't really benefit from having it on your car except the extra rotating weight helps smooth out some really fast motors to make them easier to drive. I ran mine all the time in mod for the flywheel effect, I just turned my throttle trim up to a slow creep to keep the car from slowing too abruptly

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:28 am
by FasterLouder
Now I realise why the entire bag,the header card and it's contents are all sticky! :lol:
It's missing the bottle of fluid-I guess it leaked. :?
Think I'll assemble it with a little shock fluid on the seals and install it on the shelfer...After I let it all dry out!
Thanks for all the help,I love this site. :D

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:41 am
by GJW
can i have it? :mrgreen:

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:16 am
by FasterLouder
Just built it...It's puuurty.
Can you have it? I'll trade it for that saddle pack LI-PO you're not going to be needing,now! :P

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:39 am
by AscotConversion
We used to run Losi hydra fluid on 1/12 cars for damper tubes and plates. The Hard stuff is probably about 10K, Med, around 5K, maybe 7, and the light should be about 2K. That is a rough guess based on what we used for an equivalent when they stopped making hydra fluid.

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:33 pm
by Brandon G
AscotConversion wrote:We used to run Losi hydra fluid on 1/12 cars for damper tubes and plates. The Hard stuff is probably about 10K, Med, around 5K, maybe 7, and the light should be about 2K. That is a rough guess based on what we used for an equivalent when they stopped making hydra fluid.
Good info, Thankyou!

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:17 am
by FasterLouder
bngiles wrote:
AscotConversion wrote:We used to run Losi hydra fluid on 1/12 cars for damper tubes and plates. The Hard stuff is probably about 10K, Med, around 5K, maybe 7, and the light should be about 2K. That is a rough guess based on what we used for an equivalent when they stopped making hydra fluid.
Good info, Thankyou!
Nice one,that's good info to have!
I left what HydraDrive fluid there was left on all of the rubber O'' rings,dried the rest off and built it dry.
I was thinking about a modern equivalent of a HydraDrive,or some other sort of traction aiding device,when I saw Losi' new 'SmartDiff'.

Here's a quote from Losi..Well,Horizon Hobby 8)
"Losi engineers have designed a patent pending differential that knows exactly how to respond to track conditions and throttle input,offering the ultimate combination of precise steering and immediate acceleration".
"The new SmartDiff is the ultimate racers' upgrade for the new 8IGHT 2.0,capatalizing on it's already incredible acceleration.
It makes an easy,drop in hop-up for every 8IGHT platform vehicle.
The SmartDiff.Only from Losi".

I wonder how long until we see this diff,or an adaption of it in 1/10th vehicles?
Looks plenty cool to me and a great idea.

Here's a scan,courtesy of the Feb '09 RCCA,showing the SmartDiff under 'on throttle' action and 'off throttle' action:

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:04 pm
by Bongo Fury
Different design, but functionally that’s sorta like a Torsen differential.

Hydra Drive equates to an automatic tranny Torque Converter, with lockup even.

Why I got into this mess to begin with, amazed at the scale technology. Cool stuff. Sadly I'm never going to own a full size car with carbon fibre, titanium, yada yada.

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:13 am
by FasterLouder
Bongo Fury wrote:Different design, but functionally that’s sorta like a Torsen differential.

Hydra Drive equates to an automatic tranny Torque Converter, with lockup even.

Why I got into this mess to begin with, amazed at the scale technology. Cool stuff. Sadly I'm never going to own a full size car with carbon fibre, titanium, yada yada.
Right on,it is like a Torsen. :wink:

Never say never,man...You can build anything you want,with enough time,tenacity,tools and money!

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:09 pm
by qwikrobb
I found 3 (NIP) bottles of Hydra Fluid (light,med,heavy) a hobbyshop last week.
Are they worth anything? Put them on the 'bay?

Robb

Re: HYDRADRIVE JUICE

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:34 pm
by FasterLouder
qwikrobb wrote:I found 3 (NIP) bottles of Hydra Fluid (light,med,heavy) a hobbyshop last week.
Are they worth anything? Put them on the 'bay?

Robb
I'll take 'em!? :D