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Re: Mid Motor Scorpion

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Sorted the chassis plate, dampers, wheels and replaced the bushings with bearings.
Bearings made a night and day difference on the gearbox - it runs kind of smooth now :-)
Still have to sort the steering and eletrics in general.
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Looking great! :mrgreen: Dennis. Yeah bearings are a major upgrade. Could you post a vid of how she runs, not actually running on ground but having the car elevated wanting to see how the wheels spin, and the noise. I was looking at the old kyosho promo vid about progress, out of interest and man that thing is well built and functions beautifully. I'd like to see how much of a diff the belts do to your setup. Finer pitched gearing inside the gearbox should help quiten the noise down. Also a bit of oil in the gearbox, a tea spoon as suggested in the manual.

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Thanks Ron,

I not much of a video man, but if I ever get around to it, it´ll be the first video I shoot on purpose.
I guess that teespoon of oil is what makes the gears so hard to turn after 30 years.
First time it had a Scorpion in my hands, I thought the gearbox was worn or melted, but it was just diff oil :-)

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ha ha ha, I hope it was not caster in the gearbox :mrgreen:
All I got with me is the kyosho turbo raider and a rhino brand buggy converted to a truck. I will start building the kyosho beetle in a months time, I will definitely take my time with it. These are the items I got from ebay for it I also got goodyear brand tires and rims. I will put a sand scorcher bodies.
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ron wrote:ha ha ha, I hope it was not caster in the gearbox :mrgreen:
All I got with me is the kyosho turbo raider and a rhino brand buggy converted to a truck. I will start building the kyosho beetle in a months time, I will definitely take my time with it. These are the items I got from ebay for it I also got goodyear brand tires and rims. I will put a sand scorcher bodies.
I’m a bit curious on that lexan tube you got, it seems to be vintage and not TBG. Any idée who made it?
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Re: Mid Motor Scorpion

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Hcp22 wrote:
ron wrote:ha ha ha, I hope it was not caster in the gearbox :mrgreen:
All I got with me is the kyosho turbo raider and a rhino brand buggy converted to a truck. I will start building the kyosho beetle in a months time, I will definitely take my time with it. These are the items I got from ebay for it I also got goodyear brand tires and rims. I will put a sand scorcher bodies.
I’m a bit curious on that lexan tube you got, it seems to be vintage and not TBG. Any idée who made it?
I just stumbled across a post on tamyiyaclub.com with one of those lexan tubs a couple of days ago...

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=28732


I also had no idea they existed before the TBG lexan tub. The Nodis ball diff in that post was news to me too. :?

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I would not know of the make on that body, but guess what I got those parts off Joachim! These look to be aftermarket vintage moldings. Here is another closeup
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Phin wrote:I just stumbled across a post on tamyiyaclub.com with one of those lexan tubs a couple of days ago...

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=28732
I found that thread 3-4 years ago and sins then I have tried to find out who made it back then.

ron wrote:I would not know of the make on that body, but guess what I got those parts off Joachim! These look to be aftermarket vintage moldings. Here is another closeup
RON, do you can get me some better pictures on just the radio box
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Sorry Lars, but I am no where close to the physical items at the moment :mrgreen: , I am currently in the South Pacific, Fiji. I only have the saved pics from ebay to show you :mrgreen: . Give me a month, I will be back in US, so I can take a closeup of the tub, but here are the last 2 pics showing the bodies. I hope it helps for the time being :)
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DennisM wrote:Sorted the chassis plate, dampers, wheels and replaced the bushings with bearings.
Bearings made a night and day difference on the gearbox - it runs kind of smooth now :-)
Still have to sort the steering and eletrics in general.
Did you get any ideas for your steering Dennis?
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Yes, many thanks Lars.
I´ve just checked the link You sent me - It looks absolutely stunning.
The black chassis parts with the red dampers are spot on.
Really Cool racer.

I´ve had thoughts on widening the front axle too - so it´ll be copy/paste more or less :D
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Hi, Lars I am in US now and the top cover appears to be a standard kyosho kit item. It is made from thick 0.5mm plastic.

The radio tray has the usual decals pasted on it and its around 0.3-0.4mm thick. There is an inscription molded at the back, bottom of the tray. It reads *STAR*. Could you tell more on this if you know anything. I only knew of the hard plastic ones that came with the kit, this could be an early vintage reproduction to increase performance at the tracks cause of the light weightiness.
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Thanks Ron :D
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Re: Mid Motor Scorpion

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You welcome Lars :mrgreen:
And Dennis, I have begun building my kyosho beetle, gotten the chassis together with the trailing arms and all. I just wanted to see how she looked. This is my first kyosho circuit 1000 buggy ever :!: and I love its rich history. :D
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I can't believe how beautifully it is all put together with so many small parts, just like a Swiss watch!
OK I got many parts from Germany and I am able to freely choose parts for my buggy, although used, they are all in very good condition.

I have some variation of parts as well and anyone is welcome to enlighten us on these part variations. I have the rear trailing arms, the normal and the heavy weight :mrgreen:. The latter variation has thickened parts and is built to take a bit of brutal handling on the tracks.
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Next is the CRP bumper and skid plate, new
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There is an instruction sheet showing the installation of SC-57 side guards :shock:, I did not know these were made by kyosho, P.S I don't have the parts, just the instruction sheet.
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I also have these over-sized turnbuckle linkages that go on the front trailing arm setup and steering.
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I got some metal rod/ball ends in other auctions. They are the tamiya super champ/hilux 6X new rod ends($36) and the RARE AYK super trail ball adjusters (4X), new ($28). I was lucky to get these, I won't be using them on the kyosho but some future 1/8th scale custom project that I have been thinking of. Just wanted to share these vintage quality parts.
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Re: Mid Motor Scorpion

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It's amazing how much the AYK Buffalo copied the Scorpion's basic chassis design...and surely other brands too.

It's looking great, so far! 8)
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