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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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looks great :D looking forward to see it on the racetrack :D

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Twister wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:27 am looks great :D looking forward to see it on the racetrack :D
Thank you Mr Twister :D
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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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That's looking very interesting , I like the front suspension !
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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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The Thorp Dirt Burners #4940 dog bones have arrived, and my calculations was correct. I even think that they might fit with the original upper arms to when I fit those later on when I figure out the best way to reinforce them in a good way. I also got rid of the bump steer, at least the most. A bit left when the shocks are fully compressed, so I will leave it like that for now.
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Have made some mockup for the layout of servo, ESC and Li-Po. As you see I have to go with the “super shorty”, I had hoped to go with the shorty. So, if I had gone for the SE chassis style, I probably would have had more space for a short. I might have to make a new chassis for the SE-style after the race.
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I got some saddle pack arrangement from eBay that will do perfect for the super shorty. Just need to attach a piece of CF as stopper on the outside using double sided tape as precaution.
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I made my own body post up front. I used a 20mm long M4 set screw and the top of body post.
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Both threads in the gearbox for the upper deck was ruined, so I needed to fix that. I think tis is the result of mixing M4 and 6-40 screws by the previous owners. I got a Helicoil repair kit for M4 at hardware store. I never used Helicoil on plastic, and I don’t know if it will work in the long run, time will tell.
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The low profile Savöx servo is in place.
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Haven’t decided what winding I wane run… have this nice new (to me) 17.5 Trinity motor. A 17.5 will probably be a wise decision, sins I newer practice more than maybe ones before a race. Have a 13.5 Turnigy TrackStar Outlaw motor some ware, also 13.5 Trinity D4. But I will start out with the 17.5 Trinity motor.
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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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The helicoils should be fine, with the CF or a fibreglass chassis its so much more rigid that the top deck is really only serving as a chain/belt guide , unlike the stock Kydex chassis that really needed the extra stiffness , the flex in the Kydex chassis is probably why those threads fail anyway , its quite common from my experience .
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The old Pro-Line bumper is mounted together with a reinforcement for the front shock tower that my brother folded for me. I also did some threading, M3 for the shock tower and M4 for the bumper. I think this will improve the sturdiness of the bulkhead in case of a crash.

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I also mounted a belt tensioner.

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I had time to rattle paint the body and wing, and after a few sticker it’s look fairly good for racing. And now you can see why I call this project “Mad Dog”. The body is cut down about 10mm, and that was a bit too much, so I had to cut a small hole for the motor.

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I designed my own T-shirt for the upcoming race at Limburg Arena the upcoming weekend. Can't go race without proper T-shirt 8)

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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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The weakness in the front bulkhead is shearing off the lower suspension mount points , that's what I've seen on a genuine and 3d printed examples , I've been planning on a modern style brace for the bottom arm pivot pins on my cars , you have to replace the stock pins with something a little longer but I'm thinking its probably worth it , might be worth a stab on this one , those bulkheads are getting harder to find .
Yours car looks better every time I see it ! :D
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Dadio wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:57 pm The weakness in the front bulkhead is shearing off the lower suspension mount points , that's what I've seen on a genuine and 3d printed examples , I've been planning on a modern style brace for the bottom arm pivot pins on my cars , you have to replace the stock pins with something a little longer but I'm thinking its probably worth it , might be worth a stab on this one , those bulkheads are getting harder to find .
Yours car looks better every time I see it ! :D
I was planing to do just that, but my brother misunderstood me (or I wasn't clear enough :roll: ) regarding the length of angle he folded. Hopefully the bumper will protect the bulkhead until I hav time to fix it. I will make a few updates after the race, I want to replace the Kyosho stuff with original Yokomo parts even if most are period correct. :wink:

I'm glad you like it :)
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The race debut is done, and it lasted less then a lap on the open practice on Friday… The right rear arm snapped after a dodgy landing after a low speed jump.
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I had a spare one, so replaced it. In the mean time I was practicing with my vintage Optima/Scorpion based 2WD. When I was ready replacing the arm, I decided not to run my 4WD “Mad Dog”. But when Sunday 4WD day come, the urge to run it got the best of me… So, I decided to race and only to wheel it over all the jumps. It felt the right ting to do sins I had traveled 750 miles (1200km) to the race. Actually, I didn’t qualify last, I had one guy behind me.
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Losing 2-3 seconds every lap won’t take you to the A-main, but it allowed you to participate in the sponsor prices lottery.
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I have to talk with “Dadio” about reinforced 3D printed rear arms, I want to race this car :mrgreen:
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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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RE the broken rear arm , the plastic they are made of responds really well to CA , I broke a front knuckle and temporarily glued it and I swear it feels as strong as before ! I do have a design for reinforced rear arms as I had exactly that same brake , they look different in the conical section ,PM me if you want to try them .
Mine all nose dive on jumps and they tend to dig the nose into the track on landing , I've found that I'm cleaner if I keep the power on and nose up when jumping , doesn't look good but it works for me .
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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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CA might work fine as the last way out. Yes, it’s nose heavy, so you have to give gas just before the front wheels leaving the jump as you say. Sins I have mixed 32p and 0.8 module gears in the gearbox it’s rely loud. And I lost the retainer for the Delta slipper, some one found it… But I was never able to find out who that was. I have another Delta slipper, so my friend will reproduce a new retainer. Other than that it was a good experience to drive. 8)
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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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How long does the super shorty battery hold out compared to normal shorty batteries?

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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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Marshky wrote: Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:16 am How long does the super shorty battery hold out compared to normal shorty batteries?
Well, those super shorty’s I run is 2600mAh and a shorty has capacity at 4200mAh and higher. I run a brush less 17.5 motor in the “Mad Dog”, and that is no problem to run 5 minutes heats. And it’s no problem if you want to go with a 13.5 motor as I run in my vintage Lazer RR. :D
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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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Oke, thanks. I always doubted about the capacity of these batteries.

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Re: “Mad Dog Racer”

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I get 10 min with my racy 834b with a 10.5 t brushless and a 2600mah lipo , plenty for 2 or 3 practice laps and a race .
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