Old motor questions

[mark in wi]

Just was wondering about some old brushed motors I have. The first is a Speed Works Pole Position. I think it is something like a 19 triple??? The second motor is also a Speed Works but I can only tell you the the label is black and gold with pink letters for the Speed Works logo and a signature across the bottom. I thought it was something like a 17 double.?.. Thanks for the help!
Mark

[SAND SUPER STORE]

pink speedworks letters?
Just check if in the signature you can ascertain ”Tony Neisinger”

I remember 2 "signature series" speedworks back in 1991, Joel Jhonson's and Tony Neisinger's

I remember that Tony one was quad winding, unsure about turns

[mark in wi]

Thanks for the help. Maybe this will get someone else thinking.