Thoughts on the Re-Release Movement in RC

[scr8p]

I definitely do not see a jump to another brand for me. I have way to much AE stuff to bother with that.

I would like a XX of my own for comparison testing. Not to race though as I'm not interested in loading up on spares.

[RCveteran]

I would like a XX of my own for comparison testing. Not to race though as I'm not interested in loading up on spares.

Plus you'd have to accept how much better of a car it is than an RC10 and that would be a hard pill to swallow. Sorry, couldn't resist.

As to the rerelease phenom, it's great for those who race and drive these plain and simple. For those of us that liked the hunt and having something no one else had, not so much. Feels too easy like buying any one of the other 100's of RC options on any given day.

[Charlie don't surf]

I definitely do not see a jump to another brand for me. I have way to much AE stuff to bother with that.

I would like a XX of my own for comparison testing. Not to race though as I'm not interested in loading up on spares.

It was hard to go to something new since all my multiple spares were AE- Make sure you wheel mine in VA- it's a different drive for sure, smoother and looks/feels slow but is far from it, way calmer than my B2

[THEYTOOKMYTHUMB]

I won't pretend that I read every post here but anything these companies have to do to keep the lights on, I'm fine with. That said, I'm not personally interested.

[jcwrks]

These cheap Taiwan rere kits do not affect vintage collectors at all.

Rere kits are great for those that want to build, run them, and do not care if it's a replica. Not everyone is a purist, and that's ok.

[juicedcoupe]

I have a couple Tamiya and Kyosho re-re's, because they're just cool. ORV's never go outta style and the aluminum frame Kyosho's are beyond sweet.

I got a YZ-10 because I wanted a non-modern 4wd. It was a toss up between it and an Optima Mid.

I got the Hasley car because I was already considering building a Hasley-ish car.

CC- gross
Green- Meh. Hasley, without the cool part.
Metallic- Reminds me of stripper glitter.
Classic- Nah, I've got an original.
Team Car-Also have an original.
10T- Have a couple versions of originals.
Kinwald- Cool. But not $500 cool. It isn't much more than a set of shock towers.

[scr8p]

I would like a XX of my own for comparison testing. Not to race though as I'm not interested in loading up on spares.

Plus you'd have to accept how much better of a car it is than an RC10 and that would be a hard pill to swallow. Sorry, couldn't resist.

It tends to be the AE cars on top in 2wd at the big vintage races though. It could be a numbers thing, more AE cars vs. Losi. Or more competent racers running AE stuff. Jose Zayas has been doing pretty well with his Losi stuff since he showed up on the scene.

The RC10 is going to be left behind pretty soon anyway. Unless you are an amazing wheelman, the B2/B3 platform is where it's at .

[MotoObscura]

With all these AE re-releases it’s like drinking from a firehose.

I ordered an RC10CC when it was first released, but by the time it showed up I had lost interest and passed it on to someone else. I bought a 10T on a whim and have been racing it fairly consistently for the past few months, the suspension has loosened up a lot though and I’ll need to install some set screws to tighten up the slop.

Beyond that, I can’t (or rather don’t care to) keep up with all of these releases. Metallic edition? Meh. Green edition? Wtf? I admit the Team Car and GT are neat. And it took every ounce of self control not to pre-order the Kinwald edition. Not having $500 just sitting around waiting to be spent also helps.

Though if they come out with a B2 re-release I might not have any self control left at that point…

[RCveteran]

Yeah I am just giving you the business. Numbers for sure matter though, look at the big races today, like 452 AE's, 6 Xray's, 2 Kyosho and 1 TLR. Deck is kind of stacked. But yeah, vintage will move on.

Porsche did something similar in the 80's in one of their ads I recall. Read, top 10 finishers at X race were Porsches. They neglected to tell you the race had 14 cars and 10 of them were Porsche

[rc10nick]

It's just another way for RC companies to make money at this point, and TBH I'm fine with it.

I don't personally concern myself with the value of the one "vintage" car I actually own. It's my T3 from when I started racing as a kid and I've held on to it all these years because for me the value it holds has nothing to do with money. If AE started flooding the market with re-re T3 parts I'd actually be happy.

[tommy911t]

Our local track is carpet. No way am I going to build two buggies for my 11 and 9 year old kids to "get into rc" and try at the carpet track. I dont have the time or money for that. Kudos to the parents that can pull that off, tho!

We've got a Tamiya Lunchbox and Midnight Pumpkin for our backyard dirt track and dirt track a mile away. Both re re's that cost less than a racing transponder and set of buggy carpet wheels/tires lol. My kids only have stickpack Nimh batts and 2.4 radios mx-6 radios. Plus when it snows we've got traction and reverse lol.

I run a beat A stamp along with my kid's monster trucks. And I have every spare new or old just a click away.

If they are into it, I've got a few Yok 2wd midmotor cars ready for cheap hobbywing 17.5 setups. Meanwhile... I'm on a passion fueled collecting binge that has lasted twice as long as my kid's have been alive.

We're being spoiled with kits, spares, tires, tips, set up, secrets, community, behind the scenes videos, reviews, interviews... EVERYTHING. I'm thrilled every time I sit down at the bench.

My thoughts as a collector, father, and racer?

This is truly the best time to be in this hobby. Gatekeepers to rc can take a long walk off a short driver's stand.

Turn your transmitter on, turn your car on and go on the tone.

I've got to thank forums like this that have kept me informed, inspired and ego in check when I thought only my way was the right way.

-Tommy

[Lowgear]

For me, there's no simple answer as it can be looked at in a multifaceted way depending on your vantage point both good and bad.

From my collector perspective, I like that it now leaves the vintage original vehicles and parts alone more. Before the re-release craze, anyone who wanted to run these models had no choice but to acquire what was still available from back in the day to do so. That initially wasn't a problem as vintage R/C was a super niche hobby and prices of the items were relatively inexpensive and plentiful. Then however many years ago it was, vintage R/C had a great resurgence in popularity helping to deplete the already limited supply, and eventually prices rose to astronomical levels. Now with the market being completely saturated with reproduction and re-released parts, it should curtail that to an extent, and hopefully prices of originals come back down.

On the flip side of things, that helps buying but hurts selling as vintage original parts and vehicles go back to mainly being desirable to purists and collectors. As such, the buyer pool has been reduced. That doesn't automatically mean the originals have greatly diminished in value, just that you may very well be sitting on things there are modern equivalents of for a bit longer before they actually sell. That in turn will cause prices to go down as sellers lower them to make the sale.

There's also the major issue of authenticity as some modern reproductions are carbon copies which can make them indistinguishable from original parts. That can lead to misidentification and being mistakenly bought, sold, or used as genuine vintage items. This makes it difficult for collectors and purists to verify their investments unless they only buy new in the package parts.

[Lavigna]

There's also the major issue of authenticity as some modern reproductions are carbon copies which can make them indistinguishable from original parts. That can lead to misidentification and being mistakenly bought, sold, or used as genuine vintage items. This makes it difficult for collectors and purists to verify their investments unless they only buy new in the package parts.

Yes, some of the re-re parts are very hard to distinguish from the originals. The reproduction motor labels can present the same problem. Buying NOS parts should ensure you're getting a genuine original piece. However I've seen people stoop to repackage new parts with vintage header cards. I now look closely at the staples and packaging before buying.

[Lowgear]

There's even people re-packaging used parts to make them appear new at a quick glance. But yeah, looking closely at the header card staples is a very good practice to have! They're a tell-tale sign or the holes they leave if the package has been tampered with in some way.

[badhoopty]

Just talkin about the rc10 reres, but the thing that made the rc10 badass back in the day, even to a kid just running one at the neighborhood jump spot, was that it was the "import fighter", and would whoop your friends tamiya with extreme prejudice.

The rere rc10s are an imported asian clone, marketed and sold to you by an asian company, using brand equity from an old u.s. company they purchased and own the rights to.

It's cool to have the chance to get an rc10 kit all new and minty and not feel guilty about building it and running it... but I will always put more value to a usa car, just out of principle. (and maybe a little bit of spite...)