RC10 - A Stamp Rebuild - Chipped Idler Gear

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Re: RC10 - A Stamp Rebuild - Chipped Idler Gear

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XLR8 wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:37 pm Ah, I've seen that before -- it eliminates all droop in the suspension which can be bad but probably not a big deal if the car ran on a dead flat surface. Over a rougher surface however, the tires would literally skip over the surface stressing the drive train and making the car really hard to drive. Droop is necessary to allow the tires to maintain contact with the surface.

It's also possible the tooth chipped because the nylon has become dry and brittle. Do you know about re-hydrating old nylon parts? Just clean them with warm water and dish soap to remove all traces of grease and oil, then rinse to remove the soap residue and drop the parts into a jar of water for a few days. This will allow the nylon to absorb water making the parts soft and pliable.
This RC10 looks like it was barely run, that's what made me think the axle stubs stopping and starting abruptly as they snagged, was what was responsible for the idler gear damage. The rest of this thing is pristine, there's only slight yellowing on the gear case, and top of the arms, but nothing is brittle so far.

I'll have to try the water trick, thanks for that!

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Re: RC10 - A Stamp Rebuild - Chipped Idler Gear

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Have nearly all of the parts to get this one going again.
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Got the ASC6614 black delrin gears from another member here, on ebay, appreciate these still being available, at any price.
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Already had the Trinity battery pack, found this motor to go with it.
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Need a particular ESC, and a bearing kit. Also thinking about getting the Dhawk 6-gear bearing kit.
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Re: RC10 - A Stamp Rebuild - Chipped Idler Gear

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The D-Hawk bearing adapter is not really necessary IMHO.

"Should I put bearings in this kit, or are there any other improvements I could make in the gear box while it's open?"

Bearings is yes.
The best investment in a 6 gear transmission is taking the burrs off the teeth of all the metal gears in the trans. All 4 metal gears.
The burrs left from manufacturing the gears can chew up those pretty new idlers.
Drag your fingernail across the gear faces and at the ends of the face and there will be a burr on both ends ( file sand polish ).
There is also a lot of excessive side to side play in the idlers and outdrives that can be dealt with.
Shims for the idlers and trimming the ends of the 6609 drive gear pivot about .010" - .015".
Check end play on the 6609 with calipers before trimming.
It takes time but 6 gears can be made to run like a Swiss watch.

Some more reading is here. https://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=44362


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Re: RC10 - A Stamp Rebuild - Chipped Idler Gear

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radioactivity wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 8:54 pm The D-Hawk bearing adapter is not really necessary IMHO.

"Should I put bearings in this kit, or are there any other improvements I could make in the gear box while it's open?"

Bearings is yes.
The best investment in a 6 gear transmission is taking the burrs off the teeth of all the metal gears in the trans. All 4 metal gears.
The burrs left from manufacturing the gears can chew up those pretty new idlers.
Drag your fingernail across the gear faces and at the ends of the face and there will be a burr on both ends ( file sand polish ).
There is also a lot of excessive side to side play in the idlers and outdrives that can be dealt with.
Shims for the idlers and trimming the ends of the 6609 drive gear pivot about .010" - .015".
Check end play on the 6609 with calipers before trimming.
It takes time but 6 gears can be made to run like a Swiss watch.

Some more reading is here. https://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=44362


Chuck
Much appreciation, will go over the metal gears tonight, and make sure I've read that all correctly, bookmarked the 6-gear link too. I ordered the Fast Eddy Classic set, and will not get the Dhawk kit. Thanks!

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Re: RC10 - A Stamp Rebuild - Chipped Idler Gear

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Here is Jay Halsey's Tranny Tips in pdf. Click the pop out icon on the upper right to go full screen.

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Re: RC10 - A Stamp Rebuild - Chipped Idler Gear

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jcwrks wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 7:33 am Here is Jay Halsey's Tranny Tips in pdf. Click the pop out icon on the upper right to go full screen.
:shock: that is serious business! I had no idea what all went in to the 6-gears to make them race ready. Looking forward to taking my time and performing some of these recommended steps. Drilling the diff ring is out of my range for this project, but really appreciate seeing what was involved in the pinnacle of the 6-gear development. Thanks for that!

Bearings should be here tomorrow, looking forward to getting back to this.

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