Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

When it's R/C related, but doesn't fit anyplace else.

Moderators: scr8p, klavy69

User avatar
TokyoProf
Approved Member
Posts: 344
Joined: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:13 pm
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Has thanked: 563 times
Been thanked: 418 times

Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by TokyoProf »

Front Wheel drive buggies continue to fascinate me. It is a hard and challenging project. I love the rare instances where RC hobbyists give their go at creating a decent FF buggy.
What is the most promising design so far?

After the 1988 Kyosho Maxxum FF, has there ever been another front wheel drive off-road buggy offering? That is a long time!
If Kyosho were to design a new Maxxum FF today what would/should they do? What would a modernized Kyosho Maxxum FF look like?

1) Is it possible to place the motor in alignment with the front wheels? (most have a long overhang)
2) Have we considered longitudinal placement of the motor at the front?
3) Does it have to be complicated?
4) Can it look good (Maxxum FF was good looking).
5) Have we determined the perfect weight ratio/balance for dirt/carpet?

"We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"
John F. Kennedy Sept 12, 1962.
"Everyone is capable of so much more than they think they are." - Johnny Kim - Navy Seal, Doctor, Astronaut

User avatar
GoMachV
Super Member
Posts: 12335
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:31 pm
Location: Twin Falls, ID
Has thanked: 1129 times
Been thanked: 3917 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by GoMachV »

There were buggies before (A-Main Bullet, Nichimo Spirit FF, and a few 4wd buggies sold as fwd like the coyote) and after (the ORB is a currently available buggy) as well as 3d printed buggies like the Badger.

User avatar
Phin
Approved Member
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:17 pm
Location: NY²
Has thanked: 87 times
Been thanked: 248 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by Phin »

After FF buggies were forced into the 4wd class for offroad there wasn't a good reason for a company to produce an FF buggy over a 4wd design. Since then FWD has been almost exclusively an onroad thing.

1) Unless someone makes wheel hub motors, and an esc that can simulate a diff your options for motor placement is going to be in front of, behind or over the trans (under ain't going to work).
2) Nichimo Spirit FF, and the Coyote had longitudinal motors...this custom one did too:
ayk566bff2.jpg
3) Steering on a mid motor FF car is a bit complicated.
4) All FF cars look good to me. :D

User avatar
THEYTOOKMYTHUMB
Super Member
Posts: 7132
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:15 pm
Location: Evansville, IN
Has thanked: 3693 times
Been thanked: 1976 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by THEYTOOKMYTHUMB »

Sandkil did a really cool one a few years ago.

https://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=42755
"The world looks so much better through beer goggles: Enjoy today, you never know what tomorrow may bring."
Ken

User avatar
Frankentruck
Super Member
Posts: 3808
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:59 am
Location: Texas, USA
Has thanked: 2604 times
Been thanked: 2976 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by Frankentruck »

After seeing a Maxxum in person when they were new and being friends with the owner and seeing how he suffered trying to drive that thing, I don't see a need for FWD off-road buggies. Just say NO to tail draggers.
Frankensteined RC10T3 / Franky Jr RC10GT-e (x2) / A+ stamp / Toy Story RC / Graphite replica / B1.5 BFG 5LTi / Clonewald / Hyper Hornet

"I love the effort, but it sure looks like you took the long way around to a tub again"

User avatar
Phin
Approved Member
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:17 pm
Location: NY²
Has thanked: 87 times
Been thanked: 248 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by Phin »

These are pics of the custom FWD pics I've pulled from magazines (not including the Ryuz car):
fwdultayk.jpg
fwdshuey.jpg
fwdcars.JPG
ffa8noc88.jpg
fwdcar1.jpg
ffdec89.jpg
ffrc10.jpg
ffrc10b.jpg
fwdghopt.jpg
Attachments
inscp1287.jpg

User avatar
Phin
Approved Member
Posts: 2818
Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:17 pm
Location: NY²
Has thanked: 87 times
Been thanked: 248 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by Phin »

A couple with Scorpion parts.
Attachments
scrpultff2.jpg
scrpultff1.jpg
ffscrp.jpg

Trass
Approved Member
Posts: 371
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:02 pm
Location: Near Limoges - France
Has thanked: 487 times
Been thanked: 257 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by Trass »

Manobet did something cool around 2010 with Ultima kyosho gear

Project name : " Y-not " ;)

Image
Image



Jerome
Sorry for my rusty english, i'm a kind of French farmer lost in his montain ...

User avatar
morrisey0
Super Member
Posts: 1799
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:45 pm
Location: Richmond, VA
Has thanked: 87 times
Been thanked: 1847 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by morrisey0 »

A little goofing off I did awhile back. More designed for a 4wd onroad truck, but travel could always be added. It was just a proof of concept thing.



rc10 4wd front end.jpg
I build RCs like people would have done back in the '90s ..................................... if they had 3D printers.

User avatar
Frankentruck
Super Member
Posts: 3808
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:59 am
Location: Texas, USA
Has thanked: 2604 times
Been thanked: 2976 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by Frankentruck »

morrisey0 wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:52 am A little goofing off I did awhile back. More designed for a 4wd onroad truck, but travel could always be added. It was just a proof of concept thing.
1000016874.png
That is cool! It looks like you could just stack those as modules, one in front of another, in front of another, on front of.... like an RC10 centipede!
Frankensteined RC10T3 / Franky Jr RC10GT-e (x2) / A+ stamp / Toy Story RC / Graphite replica / B1.5 BFG 5LTi / Clonewald / Hyper Hornet

"I love the effort, but it sure looks like you took the long way around to a tub again"

1911Colt
Approved Member
Posts: 1289
Joined: Fri May 06, 2022 9:11 am
Has thanked: 1778 times
Been thanked: 857 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by 1911Colt »

Trass wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:03 am Manobet did something cool around 2010 with Ultima kyosho gear

Project name : " Y-not " ;)

Image
Image



Jerome
Wow! That is cool!

Janus
Approved Member
Posts: 81
Joined: Tue May 16, 2006 5:46 pm
Location: Netherlands
Has thanked: 66 times
Been thanked: 45 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by Janus »

I got an ORB FWD, based on a B6.1.

Nice piece of kit, works very well in low grip conditions
Schermafbeelding 2025-06-11 225618.jpg
Schermafbeelding 2025-06-11 225618.jpg (18.28 KiB) Viewed 117 times
Schermafbeelding 2025-06-11 225618.jpg
Schermafbeelding 2025-06-11 225618.jpg (18.28 KiB) Viewed 117 times
https://site.petitrc.com/setup/orbracing/setupforward/Fwd_Janus_BuildNotes/
Genius by ignorance

HS-YZ250
Approved Member
Posts: 363
Joined: Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:14 pm
Location: Georgia, USA
Has thanked: 178 times
Been thanked: 155 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by HS-YZ250 »

Here's one I remember seeing over the years.

https://www.tamiyaclub.com/forum/index.php?/topic/80017-fwd-buggy/
Losi LXT (JRX-T Conversion)
Losi JRX Pro SE
Kyosho Rocky
Parts-Car-to-Runner Kyosho Rocky
Yokomo YZ10 WCS '95 Pavidis
RJ Speed Spec10 "Chew Toy Mk1"
Redcat Lightning STK "Chew Toy Mk 2"
Kyosho Lazer ZX, ZX-R, ZX-RR

User avatar
RogueIV
Approved Member
Posts: 1161
Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2022 10:04 pm
Location: W. Mass
Has thanked: 2129 times
Been thanked: 1095 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by RogueIV »

I had at one time modified a spare Rally Weapon into a shorter FWD monstrosity with intent on going after the Tamiya Minis. Probably could have adapted that to a Buggy with some rear swing arm suspension to get that wheelbase back. That project got dismantled years ago though.
Frankentruck wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:56 am
morrisey0 wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:52 am A little goofing off I did awhile back. More designed for a 4wd onroad truck, but travel could always be added. It was just a proof of concept thing.
1000016874.png
That is cool! It looks like you could just stack those as modules, one in front of another, in front of another, on front of.... like an RC10 centipede!
an RC10 8x8 could be amusing.
Consistency is the key I keep misplacing.

Trass
Approved Member
Posts: 371
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:02 pm
Location: Near Limoges - France
Has thanked: 487 times
Been thanked: 257 times

Re: Front Wheel Drive Buggy Discussion

Post by Trass »

Janus wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:00 pm I got an ORB FWD, based on a B6.1.

Nice piece of kit, works very well in low grip conditions

Schermafbeelding 2025-06-11 225618.jpg

https://site.petitrc.com/setup/orbracing/setupforward/Fwd_Janus_BuildNotes/
Cool,

Manobet made some special parts for a French customer for the ORB FWD

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image


Jerome
Sorry for my rusty english, i'm a kind of French farmer lost in his montain ...

Create an account or sign in to join the discussion

You need to be a member in order to post a reply

Create an account

Not a member? register to join our community
Members can start their own topics & subscribe to topics
It’s free and only takes a minute

Register

Sign in

  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “R/C Off-Topic / Chit-Chat”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests