Boyer sand rail

[shodog]

Check this out,I thought it was pretty cool

[scr8p]

that's pretty cool, but i don't like how he has the upper shocks mounted. tops and bottoms of shocks mounted opposite of each other is usually only good for one thing.

finding the weakest point.

[shodog]

tops and bottoms of shocks mounted opposite of each other is usually only good for one thing.

finding the weakest point.

I'm not following you, explain yourself young man

[terry.sc]

And they were actually a Boyer designed production chassis
http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=780

[aeiou]

Cool stuff...

Here's the chassis:

http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=30&products_id=816

And another one...

http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=781
http://rc4wdstore.com/product_info.php?cPath=30&products_id=819

[scr8p]

tops and bottoms of shocks mounted opposite of each other is usually only good for one thing.

finding the weakest point.

I'm not following you, explain yourself young man

alright, lets see...................... do you notice in the pic that the top of the shocks mount from the outside in, and the bottoms mount front to back? how well to you think that shock is gonna pivot when the suspension compresses? the shock is not allowed to rotate freely on the shock bushing on the top. it's more or less rocking back and forth against the nut that's holding it on. which is the best way to destroy a shock. especially if it binds before the suspension is fully compressed.

i suck at explainig this sort of stuff. to me, it's just common sense that the top and bottom of the shock should mount in the same direction. front to back. unless we're talking about the a&l trailing arm setup.

but, hey.............. who am i to say it's wrong. he's the chassis designer/builder.

[badhoopty]

i'm following ya scr8p. if one of the mounting points doesnt follow the same arc as the rest it will bind, unless there is enough slop to allow for it... right?

[scr8p]

i'm following ya scr8p. if one of the mounting points doesnt follow the same arc as the rest it will bind, unless there is enough slop to allow for it... right?

ya, more or less.

[scr8p]

that's another reason why instead of a normal shock bushing, it has fuel line in it's place.

and to me, that's like putting a band-aid on the problem.

[badhoopty]

icky shock mounting or not, its pretty cool that its made available to the masses.

you guys remember the old days when it was just hua, and he was in waaay over his head?

rc4wd sure has came a very long way.

[klavy69]

Thats pretty cool...even if its flawed. There's one thing that I have really gained with my short membership here besides the knowledge is all the links you guys come up with. Gonna have to get another pc just to put the rest of my R/C links on
Thanx
Todd

[badhoopty]

now lets not start saying its flawed...

somebody might get buyers remorse.



that thing should be an absolute hoot in the sand.

[shodog]

somebody might get buyers remorse.

Who would that be?

[MelvinsArmy]

that's another reason why instead of a normal shock bushing, it has fuel line in it's place.

and to me, that's like putting a band-aid on the problem.

Boyer mounts all his shocks on the chassis with fuel line. Crawlers, scale MT's, now these things. It actually makes for a really good bushing. I don't know if I'd want it on a high-speed machine that's going to take a lot of beating, but for crawlers and MT's, it works great and allows much more movement of the shock. I do agree about the pivot, there's no reason why the mount couldn't have been made the normal way.

[bearrickster]

I like the seats where do you get them? what are they out of?