Front upper turnbuckle mounting position?

[superfly]

I'm building a Gold RC10 for a local track vintage race and I have a question for all the tuners out there. I bought some turnbuckles from MrBolink off ebay and I guess the sizes I bought are too short for the smaller ASC ball cups. RPM larger one would prob work but I bought tons of the smaller black ASC ones. Anyways if I reposition the Upper Ball Stud about 6mm closer to the tire I can make them work. There were holes already in the shock tower so I'm guessing this is an OK tuning idea. Does anyone know what this will do to handling? It appears that the tire might not increase camber during the downstroke as much but I wont really know untill I'm finished with the build up. Anyone try this or know what this will do?

Also there is a lower hole...would this one be better?

[scr8p]

in the outside top hole, you'll get less camber on the down stroke, like you said. if you drop to the lower hole, you'll get an increase in camber, more than you'd get using the inside hole with a longer tie rod.

i think...........................

[superfly]

thanks i'll try it out

[templeofspeed]

Man, I wish I had another one of those shocktowers...

[superfly]

why are these valuable???

[templeofspeed]

why are these valuable???

Well, not particularly... That tower was used on the six gear Graphite, CE, and 1st stealth Team cars, plus the last of the TQ10's. They're common enough on cars, but I can't seem to find a nice one separately... If you're racing it, get the later six hole per side version:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LX2529&P=7

[superfly]

ok cool yeah i have 2 of them and a one that has the 6 holes good to know cheers

[badhoopty]

Man, I wish I had another one of those shocktowers...

first time i've ever seen one. pretty neat lookin.

[templeofspeed]

first time i've ever seen one. pretty neat lookin.

Really?? Common enough from 1989-1991... or is it..?

[superfly]

i never thought these were rare. my first one was on my 89 graphite and its still in mint shape. this beat up one was on a B chassis gold i got off ebay i think...but maybe there arent many out there?

[badhoopty]

i dunno, all i'm sayin is i havent seen one.

[Whiskers]

I double checked my "book" from back in the day. And this is the answer I got.

"The shorter the camber rod, the more the camber will change during suspension travel."

[justinspeed79]

I have that same shock tower on my CE.

[scr8p]

I double checked my "book" from back in the day. And this is the answer I got.

"The shorter the camber rod, the more the camber will change during suspension travel."

well..................i wouldn't fully agree with that. it would really depend on where the ball stud placement is. if you go by superfly's pic, there is two holes on the outside of the tower. using the lower hole, it should throw more negative camber during compression than it would if the ball stud was in the upper hole. and you'd still be using the same length tie rod. or damn near close to the same length.

[superfly]

you know looking back at this question when I start trying to visualize whats happening in terms of angles as the suspension moves through its range of motion...(and even if i draw it out on paper using smaller lengths of turnbuckes)...ummm unfortunatley the left side of my brain says to the right side: "Hey its dark in here?!"

I'm going to leave the turnbuckle on the outer and upper mount for now and try it on the track and see if its any good...