update: decaled my 4X4

[Dr. Robotnik]

terry.sc = King Kyosho at least on TC

Good for him.

Though perhaps he shouldn't charge into a thread where someone has said they have tried to make something work for two years, finally succeeding and then try to start an argument (only how it seems).

Thanks a lot for the vintage info though terry.sc

Oh and thank goodness its not TC.

[Mr. ED]

Hey guys don't worry, I'm fine,
I'm verry happy with my creation actually.
I looked for a while to get an optima, but with all I wanted to change to it, it was easier to use the ultima parts.

It hought of using lazer stuff for the suspension initially, who knows which discussions that would have set off

and really, yes, thankyou for the info and pics Terry.
I got another idea now for another one: mix between Nkamura and Mip style conversion!
But eh, don't hold your breath guys: may take a few more years

Asso, man, the picure with body is not mine

I plan to use a NIB triumph (seeking cover) or buy a desrt viper kit from Tamiya (don't they sell spare buggy bodies anymore?)
The Triumph fits almost perfect, but if I can sell it, I have enough for the kit

[Tadracket]

.....mix between Nkamura and Mip style conversion!
But eh, don't hold your breath guys: may take a few more years

Few more years?

I guess I can wait that long. It will give me a reason to keep coming back to this site. Just kidding guys, there are hundreds of reasons to keep coming back. I love this site. It has helped fuel the passion again.

Tad - rc10talk =

[terry.sc]

Just razzing you man. Don't take it personal. That's just the way I am.

No probs, didn't take it personal, that's why I just posted the daft comment.

I looked for a while to get an optima, but with all I wanted to change to it, it was easier to use the ultima parts.

I can see why, I did a saddle pack chassis conversion for my Optima way back then and it involved using the alloy side plates and trying to attach them to a carbon plate, in the end just screwed it to the underside of the chassis rails and meant the saddle packs were hung outside the rails so didn't improve the handling. Certainly looked nowhere near as neat as this one - it looked the hack job it was.

It thought of using lazer stuff for the suspension initially, who knows which discussions that would have set off

The Lazer arms would go straight on the front but you would need the Ultima Pro XL rear arm mounts for the narrower pivot points(part no. UM-50). I'm sure it would handle worse and you also couldn't use the low front shock setup.

and really, yes, thankyou for the info and pics Terry.
I got another idea now for another one: mix between Nkamura and Mip style conversion!
But eh, don't hold your breath guys: may take a few more years

I think we could all wait for that Just a thought, isn't the Nakamura shaft drive design very similar to the Dark Impact transmission?

I plan to use a NIB triumph (seeking cover) or buy a desrt viper kit from Tamiya (don't they sell spare buggy bodies anymore?)
The Triumph fits almost perfect, but if I can sell it, I have enough for the kit

Bodies for the Desert Gator and Sand Viper should be available, Desert Gator body part number is 1825363, Sand Viper body is 1825429. I know you can buy them over here in the UK so you should be able to order them locally.

I must scan the rest of the magazine. It's Radio Race Car and it has the 87 Worlds report in it.

[Mr. ED]

Hey Terry,
thanks for giving me a chance to talk RC: I'm getting a bit isolated here in Japan.

It really isn't that much of a big thing here as everyone thinks. (Plus so few RC people speak english here).

You are right on the rear arm mount, I planned to use that. Plus the rear bulkhead with extra holes. But than the lazer arms still interfere with the moterplate.
I was going to dremael a bit of the plate but saw shodog put up some gearbox halves for sale 'for long arms'. Have you ever seen them?
I'd like to know how these are different and if they require another moterplate.

I don't know if you saw my other 'ultima' conversions:

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=663&highlight=
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=683&highlight=
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=767&highlight=
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=808&highlight=

Next project is finish proj04 or maybe a midmoter conversion using an A&L gearbox with hyperdrive spur and pulley. Or maybe the nakamura/mip thing: using a belt on the topshafts of an ultima gearbox in the rear and a maxxum gearbox in the front.

[terry.sc]

Seem to have missed this thread.

Yes, the gearbox for the long arms is different, part number UM-52 I think. Only difference is that the long arm gearbox has some of the plastic removed to fit between the long arm suspension mounts compared with the standard gearbox, so the standard gearbox just needs some of the plastic cut away to fit.

It does use a different gear cover and motor plate, but not having one to compare I'm not sure of the differences but I suspect it is to bring the motor forward as it is the same shape as the original ones.

Not seen the others before, they were posted before I joined here. They look great, it's good to see proper engineering and unique ideas rather than just throwing loads of hop ups at it. I got into this hobby in the 80s, when you had to modify a kit just to make it last a race, now it's all about spending a fortune on shiny bits of aluminum to just bolt on.

[Tadracket]

...now it's all about spending a fortune on shiny bits of aluminum to just bolt on.

Saw that craze with the T-Maxxs. I ran one stock for a long time with no broken parts but everyone around me was spending crazy money on shiny stuff. Just to bash around the back yard.

Funny part was, most would not run their trucks after the mods. They were afraid to break them

[Mr. ED]

Seem to have missed this thread.

Yes, the gearbox for the long arms is different, part number UM-52 I think. ...
It does use a different gear cover and motor plate, but not having one to compare I'm not sure of the differences ...

Not seen the others before, they were posted before I joined here. They look great, it's good to see proper engineering and unique ideas rather than just throwing loads of hop ups at it. I got into this hobby in the 80s, when you had to modify a kit just to make it last a race, now it's all about spending a fortune on shiny bits of aluminum to just bolt on.

Mmm, no use to buy that other gearbox house without the moterplate and gearcover then.

I'm glad you like the other stuff I made over the years. I've spent 10s or even 100 times more on this part of the hobby then on actual driving, though I allways build to drive. I never built a shelfqueen intentionally.

The modding started as a necessity just like for you (had a boomerang back then which I started putting the bigwig front suspension on), but I soon discovered this is what I like best in the hobby and it is also the part I'm least dependant of clubs, shops etc, so I can do this combined with my busy workschedule.

[Mr. ED]

Time to add some pics with the decaled body.

Will have to make some new ones with the white rims of the first pics.
I just kinda forgot to remove those dirty yellow rims

[Bormac]

I really like the bodyshell on this car Eric. What shell is it?

[isobarik]

I must say that it actually looks Super super Cool wow...amazing ...

mvh Isobarik

[Bormac]

This would be a really nice looking car out on the track come 'vintage' day. I like the colour combo/style with those yoloow 2.0" rims.

[ireg]

love the shell look

[Mr. ED]

The brand is volks and model.. Ithink was called cyclone. The body was made as a replacement for the tamiya boomerang.
Aside from this I know of only 2 other rc products they made. Here's where I got the info from and some pics: http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.rcfan.net%2fzero-one%2findex.html
Currently they still seem to exist but no longer active in rc: http://www.volks.co.jp/en/index.aspx

[mrlexan]

Nice Erik!