My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

The place for all things Tamiya.

Moderators: scr8p, klavy69

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

Way back in the day I had a Hotshot , it was pretty good to race at first but was soon eclipsed by other cars like the Optima and CAT , so my hotshot kind of started to develop in order to keep up , this first picture is something I'd forgotten I'd done till i found these picture , at this point I'd like to say that I'm sorry , really sorry about the pictures , they were taken in my bedroom with probably a fixed focus disposable camera by a 12 or 13 year old and unfortunately then stored in a damp shed where they further degraded but you can just make out some of the details , anyway this first one shows both the original mono shocks mounted to the rear and a pair of scorpion shocks up front .
Image
Further along by miles but not in its final form these next shots show the Hotting Up A Hotshot chassis i made from plans in Model Cars magazine , for the lack of GRP I used copper plated PCB that was easier to find locally , it also shows a switch to Boomerang shocks all round and the major mod of fitting front arms to the rear including the knuckles with a track rod the the mono shock mount on the lower arm , this system was much like the PB Mini Mustang rear that was able to give the car roll induced rear steering , one of the problems i had with the car was that if you could get enough steering angle to corner well then the front shafts fell out so this system of rear steering was my solution and it worked well for me .
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
you can just make out the TMS alloy front knuckles in this one .
Image
This one shows the rear steering with the suspension compressed one side
Image
Image
Image
Later on i fitted a TMS GRP chassis that was some improvement in rigidity .
Now I've been meaning for a long time to build a replica of this car and now is the time ( before Dinglem puts the prices through the roof :lol: )
I have nothing yet to show as parts have literally just been ordered , I'm going to try and stay faithful to the original car that's sadly long since vanished , making changes only where i can do a better job these days with better tools and recourses , notably the fitting of front top arms at the rear meant cutting down the mounting on the gearbox to fit the narrower arm , this time I'll 3d print a top arm that fits both the gearbox and the pivot ball , otherwise i want my old car back ! :)
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

User avatar
dinglem
Approved Member
Posts: 1376
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:45 am
Location: Lichfield, UK
Has thanked: 243 times
Been thanked: 629 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by dinglem »

You must be well stoked to have all of these pictures of your old car! 8)

Did you run standard diffs in yours? As i am also in the Hotshot groove I will look forward to seeing yours develop.
CAT SWB&XL, Meteor (x3), RC10 custom, RC10 Graphite, Goldpan, 870c (x2), Works 91, Samurai, Pro Radiant (x2), Mini Mustang&Maxima, Mid Turbo, TOP Hybrid , Coyote, Hot Trick Optima, Supercharge, Brimod, 'Rory Cull' Hotshot, SRB.

User avatar
coxbros1
Super Member
Posts: 2187
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:50 am
Location: Energy, Illinois
Has thanked: 1973 times
Been thanked: 1756 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by coxbros1 »

Cool thread....seriously! i ain't playin
Tap pic for clarity: Derek

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

So far I have ordered
1 re re hotshot kit
2 complete front suspension arm set
3 front knuckle tree
4 metal pivot ball retainer plates
5 front shafts for rear
6 metal supershot rear suspension mount
7 front supershot shock mount
8 rear CVA shocks
And hopefully a chassis from Gomackv replicating the TMS chassis .
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

I just wish they had been better cared for and were in focus , I ran standard diffs , I was on a budget and a most of the high end parts were mail order and my folks were not inclined to send cheques by post or use credit cards by phone so I was limited to parts I could literally lay my hands on or convince Mike the owner of Godalming model shop to get in for me , great guy by the way , whenever a new car came out he held one back and broke the kit for spare parts until he knew what parts to order as spares , my racing would have been even more limited without Mike at Godalming models .
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

Goodies !
Image
Image
Image
Image
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

User avatar
coxbros1
Super Member
Posts: 2187
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:50 am
Location: Energy, Illinois
Has thanked: 1973 times
Been thanked: 1756 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by coxbros1 »

time to get started!
Tap pic for clarity: Derek

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

Yup , just finished the gearbox's but the Southern Comfort is kicking in so best to stop :lol:
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

Spent most of the day designing new rear arms , same geometry as the front arms I used originally but without having to cut up the gearbox arm mounts or weakening the arms , I got a prototype top arm printed , still needs 0.25mm off here 0.5mm off there but very minor stuff , I'll post pictures in the morning . I also designed and printed front lower shock mounts .
There's some odd stuff about the kit as well , I got two complete parts trees for the red suspension components , knuckles etc but there was also another parts tree with just a pair of slightly different front knuckles , bit annoying as I'd ordered a second red parts tree for parts for the rear suspension .
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

Quick screen shot , top arm pretty much there , bottom arm is still very rudimentary.
Image
Till i started drawing this up i never realized how much it shortens the wheelbase , completely unintentional but it must have helped with cornering as well .
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

First pair of rear top arms printed , had to do a few minor measurement corrections after the first one printed , the bottom arm is now designed but I'm printing something for my sons partner so it will be done later if i have enough cf nylon left .
Image
Image
Image
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

These are a bit clearer that than my old photos of how it all looked , the geometry of the new rear arms is the same just adapted to fit the rear gearbox .
Image
Image
Image
Full droop
Image
Fully compressed
Image
I'm genuinely interested to see how i feel about the handling these days , back then i was in love with the way it drove !
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

User avatar
coxbros1
Super Member
Posts: 2187
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:50 am
Location: Energy, Illinois
Has thanked: 1973 times
Been thanked: 1756 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by coxbros1 »

yup....gonna be cool!
Tap pic for clarity: Derek

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

I just rediscovered something , I was just fitting up the wheels to the rear and found the steering arm and track rod end were fouling in the wheel rim , I had no memory of this problem so I started to think of ways to get some clearance , I thought of chamfering the inner rim on my lath as I had access to laths at school , then I thought I could print up some thicker triangular drive flanges to space the wheel out 2mm as I already have standard ones modelled from restoring the Mini Mustang that would be easy enough but I could never do that back as a teenager , finally I thought of using front wheels with rear tires on and that worked but I have no memory of doing it before but looking at the fuzzy pictures you can just make out the slightly rolled round edges of rear tires on front rims so that must have been what I did !
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

Dadio
Approved Member
Posts: 3868
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:21 pm
Location: Guildford UK
Has thanked: 2280 times
Been thanked: 1993 times

Re: My racing days Hotshot replica hopefully

Post by Dadio »

More stuff , the rear shocks arrived but i ordered the wrong length so i did a mock up of the rear shock tower anyway , it pivots on a pair of 6mm flanged bearings and is angled 15 degrees back .
The front shocks are not staying but just to get it standing up , nor is the stock chassis but again i wanted to get things mounted up .
The rear triangle drive flanges are also new and 3mm thicker so i can use rear wheels not fronts with rear tires on and it gives just enough clearance .
I finally managed to lay my hands on a Demon motor , not the one i used to use but one a little (LOT) hotter and a Novak Super Rooster is on its way too , its too modern but its for a runner and i want reverse , what can i say ?
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
Image
If a jobs not worth doing then its certainly not worth doing well.
A problem shared is a problem halved but an advantage shared is no advantage at all.

Post Reply

Create an account or sign in to join the discussion

You need to be a member in order to post a reply

Create an account

Not a member? register to join our community
Members can start their own topics & subscribe to topics
It’s free and only takes a minute

Register

Sign in

  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post
  • My NIB XXT from my electric racing days in 1994
    by one » » in Losi Forum
    14 Replies
    1757 Views
    Last post by GJW
  • JK Racing's 91 build...not a replica, a racer
    by JK Racing » » in RC10 Buggy Forum
    35 Replies
    4500 Views
    Last post by JK Racing
  • Tom Gloy Racing DS Mustang Replica
    by mrlexan » » in Associated On-Road Forum
    16 Replies
    1578 Views
    Last post by rc10johnny
  • It was one of those days......
    by mamba max1 » » in Off-Topic / Chit-Chat
    10 Replies
    1009 Views
    Last post by THEYTOOKMYTHUMB
  • Some Days Better To Be Lucky
    by a01butal » » in Associated On-Road Forum
    12 Replies
    1422 Views
    Last post by a01butal
  • OH HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    by THUNDERSTRIKE1 » » in Off-Topic / Chit-Chat
    6 Replies
    646 Views
    Last post by THUNDERSTRIKE1
  • Crazy last few days!
    by Mindwarp » » in Off-Topic / Chit-Chat
    7 Replies
    643 Views
    Last post by Mindwarp
  • So are the days of our lives.....
    by MOmo » » in Off-Topic / Chit-Chat
    26 Replies
    1997 Views
    Last post by Tadracket

Return to “Tamiya Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 16 guests